OK, so I watched this candid interview and it saddens me that a person can be deceived and puts their feelings above the authority of scripture. This just shows a very low view of scripture.  The sad thing is not so much that he has now openly admitted that he is a homosexual, but that there is no sign of a wish to turn from it, He says that he does not struggle with this sin (which is the sign of a person who is saved).

  • He thinks he is going to heaven ‘because he told the truth’ as if his salvation is based on that,
  • He has a very scewed view of marriage and covenant
  • He thinks that because he touched people by ‘carrying people into the presence of the Lord’ that that somehow validates his sin
  • Even though he is now living as a homosexual, he is apparently still pastoring thus disqualifying himself of the position

An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient. Since an overseer is entrusted with God’s work, he must be blameless—not overbearing, not quick-tempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent, not pursuing dishonest gain. Rather he must be hospitable, one who loves what is good, who is self-controlled, upright, holy and disciplined. He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it. (Titus 1:6-9)

  • He says that he is waiting on God about the situation. Yet there is no need to wait on God as he has explicitly instructed us though scripture that homosexuality and christianity do not mix

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Cor 6:9-10)

24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. 26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. (Romans 1:24-27)

A persons experience NEVER trumps scripture. Scripture determines our doctrine and experience. Not the other way round.

Anyway, have a listen to the interview for yourself

GCM Watch goes into this in more depth. Click here to read

To get a better understanding of the homosexuality community, I strongly advise that you look at this link

Please remember to pray for Tonex

Related Posts:

I’m just keeping it real

Do you love Christian music more than doctrine?

The sad state of gospel music today

Day 2 of Sex : Is it possible to stop being gay?

Day 5 of Sex : Homosexual Questions Uncovered | Passion for Christ Movement – P4CM.com

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Comments
  1. Erin says:

    You know…I always knew something was not quite right with Tonex. I began to see signs that something was really wrong when his clothing became even more “eccentric”. Not to “judging” by outer appearance, but let’s be real, sometimes your outer appearance says a LOT.

    But anyways, when I saw this interview a lil while ago, I was like “Oh, NO”. And it was the fact that he wasn’t even repentant of his homosexual sin. That is scary, and I hope that the Lord grants him repentance. And I still don’t quite understand why he divorced his wife if it wasn’t because of him being gay.

    • Lorri says:

      The hypocrites are every1 who keeps saying they knew something was wrong w/ him! You are really a bunch modern day Pharisees!

      THIS is why people lie in church instead of being honest about what is going on!
      IF u REALLY listened he was talking about waiting on God to remove what he’s been praying to be removed for YEARS! By admitting that this is something still within him he actually has opened the door for God to work a miracle on his behalf.

      I have personally been to many gospel events been backstage and seen how nasty the red head sister from Mary Mary treats others. The only Winans that is kind besides the parents humble is Vicki and she’s not even one of their kids! Most of these artists literally HATE each other! But we RUSH to but their canned, unoriginal secular controlled, so called “gospel”.
      His clothing revealed something? These comments reveal even more. That a bunch of imperfect fake Christians believe in order to be blessed other ppl have to be perfect…PLEASE!

      • MissN says:

        I truly feel you are you venting for him, when he has openly admitted to being gay. I do agree that it sounds unreal to hear Christians say that they knew something or knew it all along and then criticize him for his ways.

        When Tonex began changing and cursing, he was not being covered. Pastors need covering just like the saints. But be honest…alot of people only seen Tonex as an entertainer and STILL will not pray for him, but continue to condemn his ways.

        He needs a deliverance. It’s more than saying he has opend the the door for God to come in, because it sounds he felt he has already came in and is accepting his position as sinner.

        Tonex needs to be redeemed and condemning his ways is not the answer. (Not saying you were doing that) But now he needs his church and the people of God to intercede for him.

        If not, all opinions are just talk. And talk with no Godly power equals nothing.

        Thanks for posting your comment. Just adlibbing my opinion as well.

    • Tamika says:

      Erin, I agree with you totally. I am not perfect, nor do I know a perfect person. However, a person with the heart of God who really loves God is hurt, not free, when they are in sin, and like you, I didn’t see him as repentant in any way or crying out for help. He said at one point that this is “who God made me” and I almost threw up in my mouth. I refuse to believe that anybody’s destiny in God is to go against the Word of God. We were born into sin, but we have every opportunity to get it right. I’m a person who believes that being a preacher doesn’t make you exempt from sin, but still…when you are mature in Christ, you desire to be pulled out of sin, and there is a struggle. You don’t declare yourself free when you’re in sin. Freedom comes when you are delivered from that sin and back into a right relationship with God.

  2. gcmwatch says:

    Thanks for the link Alan. Sad, tragic story. I believe as the coming of the Lord approaches more whom we thought we solid will reveal their true natures. These are false brothers whose intent is not to glorify Christ.

  3. Min. Terry Watson says:

    Now, this is the times, where the trure christians will show up. Saints we got to pray for this man, and not judge him… we still got to love him, and keep him highly lifted before the Lord, that the Lord sanctify him Holy all the way… So, for that. To God be the glory… Amen.

  4. Rachel says:

    It is sad that there is so much blindness and deception out there and people think the death they are living in is life and freedom. The deception comes in all forms but its result is the same in each life – death. This is a hard topic, thanks for addressing it.

    Rachel

  5. Rev. Clemons says:

    Tonex talks about being true and knowing the scriptures, he knows that the Word of God supercedes ones experience, passions, and personality. We conform to the scriptures, not the scriptures conform to us. Tonex need not to be honest with himself, but need to be honest with God. Tonex, stop lying to yourself and repent. God comes to change our lives from being sinful to his righteousness, he gives us a guide about life through his Word. Tonex, you don’t have the authority to say what you think is true, only God can tell us what is true. Tonex is only 20 0r 30 something years old but God’s word is older than him. So I stick with God’s word because He is more experienced than Tonex

  6. Gary says:

    The old Testament speaks of Homosexuality being a sin; however, Jesus came and re-taught many of the old testament teachings: Example, Old test. says..”Eye for an Eye” – Jesus states “You’ve heard an eye for an eye, but I say turn the other cheek”. Old Test. teachs not to eat certain meat (pork)..Jesus says its not not we eat that defiles us…and the list goes on and on. In that same vein Jesus never speaks of Homosexuality..He does say that “Whom so ever” Believes in Me….Gay People can believe in Christ, and Christ will love and accept them. We have got to stop judging if we are truly Christians and learn to Fully LOVE as Jesus Christ loves..we are Christians because we are trying to be more Christ like…Amen

    Thank You Tonex for your testamony..There are SO SO Many people who need to hear it..and belive that regardless of being Gay or Not..it is “how” we live..live for Christ, and know that you are loved. You don’t have to sleep around..you can have love in your life and God can and will Bless your Covent relationship

    • Donna says:

      Hey Gary,

      Jesus clearly said “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.” The un-clean meat (just think about all of Gods health tips in the bible) that Leviticus talks about are still in effect. Jesus never violated God’s word by eating unclean meat or changing the commandments nor does it say anywhere in the New Testament (please don’t bring up Acts 10) which was a symbolic vision because the Jews thought that they were better than all (referred to others as unclean, read the whole chapter if you want to) if you weren’t of their faith.

      Yes we should love one another regardless of that person’s circumstances, but the bible clearly states that it is wrong to go against the un-natural use of a man or a women this is in the New Testament. Next I guess someone will come up with we don’t have to obey all of the 10 commandments, which I have heard from a lot of so-called Christians that only believe in the New Testament and not the Old Mosiac Laws (actually God’s Law) that by the way that include the 10.

      My Brother remember God’s word never changes otherwise he would be an imperfect god and a hypocrite like the idols made of wood, silver and gold.

      Did Jesus mention homosexuality, no, but in several different verses it is mentioned. Does this make the rest of the bible null/void because he did not mention it, I think not.

      Tonex is clearly wrong and he tries to justify his lifestyle with some covenant talk. I guess I can just go out and sleep with a man call it a convenant, not get married and the Lord will be alright with it because after all we are a convenant couple, NOT. Can he pray to be delivered? Can God deliver? The answer is yes, but only if he actually wants to change, but that is between him and “his” god~

      Tonex says that God has not delivered him yet well I guess that makes it okay, I’m still a sinner too and I’m not fully delivered and it’s probably something that I’m not willing to give up, but I also realize that God’s ways are not my ways and his thought are not my thoughts and a thousand years can be like a day to him. I’m working on God’s schedule He is not going by mine’s…..

      Please let us all pray for one another and Tonex he very talented and migh I add good looking brother. For someone that was raised in the church and to twist God’s word like that is truly a tragedy……

      Peace & Blessings w/o Numbers~

    • Tamika says:

      Not the same thing. The reason why meat is different is because Jesus specifically spoke about eating certain things and this being lawful (in the New Testament) as long as thanks is given to God for the meat. There is no scripture of this sort concerning homosexuality. Many people misconstrue that “fulfil the law” scripture. This scripture does not abolish all Old Testament laws. BTW, homosexuality is mentioned many times in the New Testament as well.

    • Timsharmony says:

      All I have to say is Tonex is wrong. He does need to repent just as anyone else has to repent for their sins. Sin is sin and as christians, we are to HATE the SIN, but LOVE the SINNER!!! Yes, God does love us all, but He has made it PLAINLY CLEAR in His Word what He dislikes in us! READ GOD’S WORD, DO NOT RELY ON YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING!! His thoughts far exceed anything we could ever imagine!

  7. Alan Higgins says:

    Gary, Jesus said that in the beginning it has always been male and female. Also you have forgotten that the WHOLE bible is the word of God and not just the gospels. So you cannot ignore the scriptures that I quoted above. The bible makes it explicit that homosexuality is wrong and an unrepentant one will not inherit the kingdom of God.This is not about judging but just stating what the bible says

  8. 404momi says:

    ” The sad thing is not so much that he has now openly admitted that he is a homosexual, but that there is no sign of a wish to turn from it,”

    While this may be sad, what is even worse is the people who continue to attend this “church”.

  9. 404momi says:

    @Gary – bless your heart, you appear to be just as deceived as Tonex is. As much as Jesus preached love, He preached “repentance” all the more. I pray that The Lord leads us all into truth – His Truth.

  10. Steve says:

    Its only an accident of birth that you are not a homosexual yourself. You need to liberate yourself from following this iron age book and this evil mythological being people call God. Thankfully he doesn’t exist and the sooner you realise this and step into the glorious light of truth and reality, you will then really know the meaning of “the truth will set you free”.

    • Penney says:

      ONLY the Word of God can set you free. Man cannot do it alone. If so, there would be no need for God and we would no exist. Check your theory.

    • Tamika says:

      If this is the case…just wondering…why you would even be interested in this topic…*scratching my head*

  11. gcmwatch says:

    404momi, so true.

    Jesus’ FIRST message wasnt about love but Repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

    If we dont get right with God (reconciliation) you can love yourself and every person on the face of the earth 100% but still end up in hell.

  12. Alan Higgins says:

    Steve, I can prove that God exists. Can you prove that he doesnt?

  13. Darren says:

    Was he saved before he came out? Scripture says that you can only admit that Christ is Lord through the Spirit. If he was saved is he still saved or can you loose salvation?

    Quote “He thinks he is going to heaven ‘because he told the truth’ as if his salvation is based on that, ”

    Are you saying that he might not go to heaven? or is it just the fact that he feels that by confessing his sin it will be forgiven?

    I’m not sticking up for him, I’m just asking questions about your question, your theology etc. The way I read scripture, I believe that you can loose your life if you don’t use your “talent”, if you don’t turn from your sin. I’m not one to judge either (much), but maybe this guy was saved and may be on the verge of loosing it. I’d be worried after reading Hebrews 6.

  14. Alan Higgins says:

    Darren, the question is, even though he went to church all his life, was he a true christian in the first place or was it just a false profession? The bibe makes it very clear that there will be people doing the whole ‘church thing’ but were never truly born again. See http://realchristianity.wordpress.com/2008/02/11/can-a-true-christian-backslide/

    Also the scriptures in my post makes it VERY clear that God will not allow practicing, unrepentant homosexuals into heaven and that they will receive the ‘due penalty for their perversions’.

    This is one of the reasons why I wrote the post on this link

    http://realchristianity.wordpress.com/2007/12/06/how-do-you-know-that-you-are-saved/

    We all struggle with sin but that is the key word. Struggle. We hate when we do and we have no desire to live in it

    I hope that answers your question Darren

  15. Truth Hurts says:

    Hey Gary just so you know Romans 1:24-27 is in the New Testament and not the old. We need to stop trying to change God’s word every time it does not agree with what we want.

  16. Darren says:

    So is it then you’re saying that he was never really saved? I woulda just left it at that. I’m currently going through a stage of trying not to blame heathens for heathen behaviour. If he’s part of the world then you have to expect that he’s going to do worldly things.

    Next you’ll be pointing the finger at Kenye West for being rude on that tv show the other week. Didn’t watch it myself but I’ve heard Christians complaining about a worldly guy doing worldly things.

    We should pray for the people that look upto these guys (most of the world), although reading the scriptures, I get the distinct idea that the world will come to an end soon and will be laid waste, because of the sin. We may as well just carry on telling the people of this world the gospel message, over, and over again. Try to find different ways to reach them without sinking into what they do.

  17. Percy says:

    My main problem with Christians is that they are quick to point fingers and to judge. I am not gay but I have many gay friends whom I know wouldn’t be gay if they had their way. Do you think they would come to the church if they wanted to “change” or to get salvation? I know I wouldn’t, seeing exactly how judgmental many Christians are, acting like homosexuality is the biggest, most exclusive sin. Why not show him love? Why not try look into the issue and wonder if something went wrong somewhere, instead of acting all perfect as if you are sinless.

    Just like Darrin said, try and find a better way of reaching out to people rather than this method that you’re currently doing. I don’t remember Jesus being so discriminative.

  18. Alan Higgins says:

    Darren, the best way I can answer if he was really saved is to look at the link that I gave you. That gives many scriptures which are like a test to see if someone is saved or not. The parable of the sower makes it clear that many people hear the word but there is no true foundation. It also makes it clear that no practicing homosexual will enter heaven. You are right. This is not a matter of judging etc but stating clearly what scripture says

    Percy, it would be unloving of me to see someone in error and not point it out. True love warns and corrects and does not stand by watching someone die in their sins

  19. Tevin says:

    OMG, the judgement on this page is sickening! And we wonder why the world is a mess. The so called people of God don’t even know him. I see lots of scripture quoting here. Is that really what the book says? Or, is that what you were told it says by its human translaters? Seeing that I’m sure none of you speak greek or hebrew, it’s the latter. The translaters will tell you that a marriage is only validated if the woman is a virgin. If she’s not, she must be executed(deut. 22:13-21). Jesus never mentioned homosexuality. I wonder why? He mentioned the religious bound a whole lot though. I understand so many of you are so thoroughly indocrinated that your vision is dim, but you should study with an open heart. Don’t be afraid of the truth. Sometimes your religion is your shackle.

    • Tamika says:

      @Tevin- I am sure nobody hates Tonex because of this…I know I don’t. I think what people are saying here is don’t take the scriptures and flip them around in order to make what you are doing okay. I believe we wouldn’t even be having this blog conversation at all if when he came out, he said that he was sorry and he wanted help, and he was away from God and wanted to be reconciled. Instead, he tried to use scripture to support his lifestyle. Like I stated in an earlier post, when you love God, it hurts you to hurt God, and you want to make it right. This is what it seems that is not happening with Tonex. Lord knows I love the brother and I want more than anything to see him restored, but does he even want to be?

  20. Darren says:

    I’m a little confused, I thought you were saying that he was never saved in the first place but after reading some of the posts that you highlighted, it seems like you are saying that anyone who sins isn’t saved or is backsliding, from reading your previous posts I think its fair to say that you don’t believe in backsliding. You believe that if you backslide you weren’t saved in the first place.

    In the parable of the sower, three of the four seeds are germinated and start to grow in God, the are quite clearly saved. You won’t start to grow in God unless you are saved.

    John 15 is where I’m at right now, I see Jesus saying that He will cut off the branches that backslide. They were in Him but now they’re not.

    No matter what we say about this guys salvation, it doesn’t change the fact that if you are in the world you are condemned already. This guy doesn’t need us to condemn him as he has already condemned himself.

    Have you spoken to Tonex about his problem? or have you just told the world his problem without checking out what scripture says on the issue?
    I thought that unless he sins against you, its none of your business. If you dont think he’s saved then he is not your brother. Therefore if you go about this case scriptually you’ll leave it at “my opinion of tonex has changed Father, please find away to bring him out of his sin… amen”

  21. Alan Higgins says:

    Tevin, what about the scriptures below:

    Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Cor 6:9-10)

    24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. 26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. (Romans 1:24-27)

    How do you explain those scriptures or should we ignore them because they did not come from Jesus mouth?

    Darren, if you look at the parable of the sowers, some appeared to grow ‘and appeared to be saved’ but for various reasons, eg. no foundation, cares of the world etc they showed themselves not to be fruit bearers. Jesus said that any tree that does not bear any good fruit, it will be cut down:

    Matthew 17:16-20
    By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

    Darren, look at http://realchristianity.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/true-and-false-conversion/ and you may understand better where I am coming from

    A lot of people go to church and on the surface appear to be saved but they are not. That is why, Jesus said let the wheat and the tares grow together and he will do the final separating at the end

    Alan

    PS. I love your video with Laura on your blog

  22. TruJoy says:

    At the end of the clip, the interviewer stressed that although she believed that marriage is between a man and a woman, her duty as a journalist was to tell the full story. I would add that it is also a journalist’s duty to ask hard hitting questions that allow the viewer to see both sides of a controversial issue.

    There were valid biblical counter-points that she could have been presented to Tonex with honest integrity that would not have amounted to brow beating or judgement. The interview was woefully one-sided.

  23. Darren says:

    lol, me and you wont agree on the discussion, I just thought it’d be good to ask a decent question. I believe it’s not once saved always saved.

    Thanks for the comment on the video. A guy at church recorded and edited it.

    I hope you don’t mind me asking a few questions of my own here and there, my elders love a bit of a bible bashing. The trick is to remain able to learn all the time. I’m learning loads and loving it.

  24. Alan Higgins says:

    No problem Darren. I’m still learning too

  25. Anthony says:

    It is quite obvious that Alan has everything sorted out: perfect and sinless. It goes without saying that you and only you are going to heaven. I’m almost reminded of the religious Pharises who kept condemning.

    My message to you, Alan: pray for yourself.

  26. Alan Higgins says:

    Nope. I am a wretched sinner just like everyone else in the world. The difference is I have REPENTED of my sins which is something that Tonex sees no need to do

  27. ItsMe says:

    He needs to go lay on his face and pray.
    He is about glorifying himself.
    No way to justify homosexuality.
    I don’t care how much you sing, how much you pray on folk.
    No way.

    And boooooo to Lexi talking ’bout “not a piece of cleavage…you guys were pretty strict.”

    Lord have mercy.

  28. ItsMe says:

    He is very eloquent and arrogant in his ignorance.

  29. TonexFan says:

    I watched the three vids with an open mind as much as possible. I really appreciate Tonex being honest. And yes he did tell his truth. Everyone has struggles, but he said what he’s dealing with is not a struggle; and I can agree with that. Somethings that we call struggles are actually choices. So Tonex has made a choice to follow his heart, what he feels is right. I can truly respect that and totallly relate to a lot that he had to say.

    But one thing: He talked about the truth setting him free. You have the script listed at the top of this page (John 8:32). The truth that he says is sitting him free is not the TRUTH, it’s his truth. The truth that sets us free is “the Way, the Truth, and the Life” (John 14:6). The I AM, Jesus is the Truth that set us free.

    I love Tonex. He gave me music I could relate to when I first got saved. Songs like “Why?” – I could relate to because of some of the struggles or choices I made when I knew they were wrong. Tonex is jus like everyone else, so I pray for him, for those who posted, and for myself. We all need Jesus. When can point out error but we can’t judge it. Make it know and Pray about it, because continued talking isn’t going to change anything. And maybe he is “waiting on God.” All of our life experiences good or bad, right or wrong serve a greater purpose when we submit to God and allow Him to use them.

    Thanks for the post and insight from everyone!

  30. __ML__ says:

    Not sure where the person that did this article got their scriptural references from but the scriptures used in this article to suggest Tonex’ is wrong “biblically” again, are incorrect. Read for yourself believers. Read for yourself. Don’t take anyone’s word for it. Educate YOURSELF.

  31. Alan Higgins says:

    Errmm the scriptures are from the bible

  32. Jocelyn says:

    Alan, just by reading your responses, I believe that you are truly an example of how christians are to think on the subject of Christ’s teachings. I commend you on how well you responded. Also, I agree that we should all Know God’s Word for ourselves and instead of pointing the finger, address the issue with the love of God in our hearts. Thank you for being that light. God bless you.

  33. Alan Higgins says:

    Thankyou Jocelyn for your words. To God be the glory

  34. Penney says:

    This is such a sad interview to view, and yet Tonex said that he was “free” from all that encumbered him previously. How deceitful, cunning, subtle and crafty the devil is; to the point where he says that “he’s waiting on God.” Well God is saying the same thing, too!…”I am waiting on you to line up with MY Word and lean NOT to your own understanding.” It’s not about “our opinions,” because they don’t play a part when it comes to God or the things of God. All that matters is what does the WORD say, and that alone. Feelings or human reasonings (natural senses) have no place when it comes to the things of God. There are only TWO thoughts/voices in this world: God’s and satan’s; that’s it. If it does not line up with the Word of God, then it MUST be satan’s. But the thing is, that most Christians do not read their Bible to know what their Father has to say on matters. So with that, how can they possibly know the real from the fake? Get into your Word more so that we as a Body of Believers will not be ignorant to satan’s devices any longer. Tonex needs our prayers so that the light of the glorious gospel can shine upon him and he see truth; GOD’s truth, not his. I noticed that he kept giving his opinions, etc., but that’s what gets folk into situations and circumstances in the first place. Bunk your opinion, but what does God have to say about it? It’s what He says that’s going to come to pass, not what I think. So stay, live, abide, conduct and order your life according to the confines or parameters of God’s Word. There you will live the victorious Christian life that He’s promised you!

  35. Alan Higgins says:

    Amen Penney. I couldn’t have said it better myself

  36. K. Darnell says:

    Tonex has clearly stated that salvation is based on the cross of Christ, not our performance. It is God’s grace, not our work. (Rom 11:6) Please don’t put words in his mouth and say things like he is not saved.

    Coming from an evangelical background as a minister of the gospel and a born again Christian for over 20 years, the concern I have with fellow believers is we say things like ‘the whole Bible is the Word of God’, but we STILL pick and choose what to obey and how to interpret it. Scripture is not a novel. It cannot be simply read for doctrine. It has to be studied! The English translations we have today (I believe approx. 10 of them) were ALL translated by teams of men (people). I can’t cover all of the inconsistencies of OUR interpretations, but I did in a book that I wrote. Later on that, if you are interested.

    Read a few of these scripture that we disregard or explain away their relevance. In other cases, we choose not to dig for a deeper and clearer understanding of what God was trying to teach and/or His purpose for the command and who it was for. (Why do we not do the same for the passage that discuss/allude to homosexuality?)

    Deut 25:5 teaches if a man dies without having children that his brother has to marry his wife and bear a child with her. We do not obey this command in our ‘modern’ society.

    Deut 21:18-21 – We are to take our rebellious and disobedient children before the church elders and let them stone them. First, 99% of Christian (and non-Christian) parents ignore this verse. Why? Second, who was this command for and why? Answer: The ancient nation of Israel (which no longer exists) during a time when God was drastically separating them as a nation among pagans/heathens.

    If we don’t have to obey this command in Deuteronomy, then why do we have to obey the command in Leviticus 18:22 & 20:13? Instead of picking scriptures that are safe for ‘us’ and that attack others, let’s do deeper study to understand what and why God said what He said.

    A couple more: The Story of Sodom and Gomorrah in Gen 19 is a continuation of a story in Gen 18. It doesn’t stand alone. It is about the treatment of your neighbor. Abraham gave an example of how to treat his neighbor (look up the Hebrew word), the angels. He obviously taught his nephew Lot, as he repeated the gesture verbatim in Gen 19. However, the people of Sodom mistreated the neighbors (Lot) and visitors (the angels) and were condemned for it. Their manner of inhospitality was rape. Now, is this interpretation easily seen from a simple reading of the text? No. It takes some digging and study. Here are some clues: 1. Do a word search on Sodom. No scripture in the entire Bible says Sodom was destroyed because of homosexuality, including Jesus’ reference to it. It says on more than one occasion that they were greedy and inhospitable…the same reference Jesus made about them. 2. There is an identical story to the Sodom story in Judges 19 that will validate Sodom’s sin being rape as in Judges it was heterosexual, vs. homosexuality in Genesis 19. If homosexuality is a sin because of the attempted rape than heterosexuality is too because of the rape in Judges.

    I haven’t even touch on the New Testament or the fact that NOWHERE in scripture is female homosexuality even mentioned. And yes, female sexuality is mentioned in scripture and the Romans passage does not mention lesbianism. (Read every word in the passage. Women going against nature refers to prostitution, not lesbianism. It doesn’t say women were with other women.)

    If you are interested in what other “homosexual” Old Testament and New Testament passages teach, how some Bible versions are mistranslated in areas, you are welcome to read my book. (I’m not try to spam. My desire is for people to be educated) It’s called “What Did Jesus Say? – Why the Bible Does Not Condemn Homosexuality by K. Darnell Giles. (Alan, I would be happy to send you a free copy if you wish) You can get it from Amazon.com or my website at: http://www.createspace.com/3361418.

    God Bless and be a Berean!

    K. Darnell

    • PK89 says:

      What you are talking about is all simply semantics. Parents don’t stone their wayward children anymore because Christ came to lift the death penalty off of all sins and because we don’t have the right to condemn when we too are condemned. When Jesus saved the adulteress by saying “let him who has no sin cast the first stone,” he was not allowing adultery, he just stopped the death penalty. Homosexuality is a sin. The Bible has mentioned it as sin in both the new testament and old testament. simply because you now want to interpret things differently does not mean that it makes them fact. I’m sure you also have reasons for why 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 also don’t “really” mean homosexuality? “All Scripture is God-breathed,” my brother. And what of Romans 1:27 where Paul clearly condemns men’s lusts for one another? I cannot change your mind, nor can I open your eyes. Allow God to open your eyes to see his words for what he meant them to be. God does not take the word “abomination” lightly, nor does he change his mind.

      Secondly, you talk about people applying certain things to some scriptures but not to others, why cannot the same scriptures that mention male homosexuality apply to female homosexuality? So many other scriptures say “men” but are taken to mean all humans.

      That being said, I have no problem with Tonex admitting that he has homosexual feelings. I think it is time that the church recognizes homosexuality as sin and temptation just like anything else. My problem is with whether or not he wants to be delivered from it. Understand that he may spend his whole life struggling with those feelings; the only question is will he give into them or will he pray for the strength to overcome? God does not take away all of our many vices, he didn’t even do it for Paul. We are not perfect, we will not be without temptation until we leave this earth. You just have to know what to do with it.

  37. NHZWILL says:

    Thank you Alan on continuing to take a stand; and people always want to twist the word when it does not fit their agenda. God says, “Be ye holy for Iam holy” Its not about chiristians judging the first chance we get, but speaking the truth IN LOVE..and we woudl be wrong to sit back and let someone who says and confessess to be a christian, sit back in their sin and say its ok.

    Blessings to you Alan..continue to stand NHZWILL..

  38. Alan Higgins says:

    K. Darnell. Look at this link and it will answer most of what you have asked.

    http://realchristianity.wordpress.com/2007/12/20/what-do-we-do-with-those-old-testament-laws-today/

    All the bible was written FOR us and but not all of it was written TO us

    NHZWILL, thanks for your words

  39. K. Darnell says:

    Alan

    If I go with method 3 (not a bad methodology) please answer for me where do the command of killing my disobedient children; and marrying and impregnating my dead brother’s wife fall? Civil, ceremonial or moral? How do we know for sure that the command for a man to not have intercourse with another man is under moral? We assume so because other sexual sins are moral issues, but this command could easily be a health/safety issue. (additionally, this Levitical command only addresses male to male intercourse; not any other male to male sexual behavior or any female to female sexual behavior. This fact cannot be simply ignored and we create a blanket law against “homosexuality”)

    Thanks

    K. Darnell

  40. Alan Higgins says:

    Romans does does about woman homosexuality. If you look at the context it says

    ‘Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.IN THE SAME WAY the men ALSO abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.’

    The other scripture that I quoted said the NO homosexual shall inherit the kingom of God and the includes women

    Please show me the context of the old testament scriptures that you are referring to

  41. Michelle says:

    When Tonex says he is not struggling, I find that disturbing. I take it to mean that he has embraced his homosexuality. If we know we are sinning and do not struggle with the sin, then that is the real problem. We are lost forever.

    Steve: Do you realize you would have to be omnipresent and omnipotent to know that there is no God. Are you omnipresent and omnipotent? If you are omnipresent and omnipotent, then you are God. You are not God.

  42. Prophetess says:

    This is utter devastation to the Body of Christ! I’m so glad that it is our personal obligation to turn from this untoward generation, understanding that the love of many will wax worst, everyday repent for the kingdom of God is at hand, etc. Alan, continue to STAND for Holiness – regardless of who tries to justify their sins, God is coming back for a Church without spots, wrinkles, blemishes or any such thing. We will all have the opportunity to stand at the White Throne of Judgment alone and all of our excuses will not excuse us. So, while we have an opportunity to Repent, receive the Holy Ghost, and live FREE from sin (ACTS 2:38). It doesn’t matter who “comes out” next and reveal their true identity, in which God knows because he is uncovering people daily. Its utter disturbing that people with reprobate minds think that they can justify themselves and minister to people. Sin plus no deliverance/repentance equals the Lake of Fire! Sin plus repentance/deliverance equals Everlasting Life! We are in the last days – don’t be deceived, God will not be mocked! If the Blind lead the Blind – the ditch is nearby! I challenge all of you to develop a Real Relationship with Jesus Christ, minister to the Lost and Save Yourself! It’s praying time and Jesus Christ is soon to come! Where will you be when the Trump of God sounds? Ready or Not – Here He Comes!!!

  43. Drae says:

    Jesus said what a marriage consisted of and endorsed the Old Testament doctrine in doing so. The New Testament is clear on the status of homosexuality as sin and studying the Greek will confirm it. I encourage you to study the Greek and the Hebrew. Also Robert A Gagnon presents some good information http://www.robgagnon.net/

    Jesus said He did not come to destroy but fulfil it. In essence He reveals its true application. When the woman was about to be stoned he confronted others with their sin so that they realised that none of them were in a position to “condemn” her to death not that they couldn’t declare the truth because he then went on to tell her to go and “sin no more”. When he spoke about adultery He didn’t lower the standard he raised it. The letter of the law was easier to do. The Spirit of the law is a higher standard

    The point that is central to all of this is that if someone relies on the Word of God for their salvation and claims that their life flows from the God of the Bible they cannot then turn around and twist clear Biblical principles to suit their situation. The same is true for someone who commits a different kind of sin

    I appreciate that Tonex feels free in the sense that he no longer has to live undercover. That is good in itself. The truth in John 8:32 is not the truth about our situations but the truth about Jesus. vs 31 makes that clear not to mention the whole chapter. He tells the Jews that they will die in their sins if they don’t believe on Him and to those who did He says that if they continue in His Word they will become His disciples and they shall know the Truth …

    The problem with his interview is more in the suggestion that God honours any consensual covenant. He has approved one sexual convenant relationship. Sexual intercourse outside of that covenant relationship is sin whether hetero or homo-sexual. The latter is perhaps more so only because it is a teparture from God’s instruction and also a departure from His created order but all have sinned and fallen short so Lexi is right in saying we need to show love. I am glad that he has been honest and also that he recognised what his real issues were (pride, lust etc…) and when he says he’s “not struggling” he could simply mean he accepts what his desire is

    However,
    1) I am concerned that he wants to continue practising in the belief that it is God’s will for Him to be sexually active. Waiting for God to move is fine but breaking His commandment is not
    2) I am concerned that he is sending a message that it is acceptable to practice homosexuality. Having the desire isn’t the issue. Many people have sinful desires but giving in to them is the problem.
    3) I’m concerned that after he asserts that the Church accepts heterosexual promiscuity but castigates homosexual committed relationships he suggests that the latter is more acceptable. Both of them are sinful and the Church should not approve of either and where a person guilty of either of these repents they should be treated the same

    We do need to pray for him and remember that he still is gifted. David continually messed up but he was still a man after God’s own heart. Why because he continually sought after God and repented. If God restores Tonex there is potentially an awesome ministry that we have not seen before. Tonex almost eludes to that.

    Peace

    Drae

  44. Joyous says:

    I just wanted to share in regards to this video. I do applaud Tonex for being transparent / bold to share with the world what has “really” been going on with him. First, I would like to say he is a very gifted, talented man, with vocal ability that is out of this world. I have enjoyed his music & yes Lord, he has ushered me in the presence of the Lord on occasions, LOL!!! Secondly, I would like to make this comment in regards to homosexuality. For me, I can totally relate to Tonex because I’ve dealt with the same feelings, struggle, or whatever. I lived as a active homosexual for most of my early years, I too grew up in church & knew that the life I was living was wrong according to the word of God. I finally got to a point where I did give my life to Christ & surrendered to Him. It’s now been 12 years living for the Lord. However, everyday it is a struggle, honestly homosexuality now is now so vast & more & more people are “coming out” so it does make it very difficult at times to maintain a level of integrity. However I will never, never try to change the word of God to make it say something else to appease my flesh. I didn’t do that when I wasn’t save, I had gay friends who said they had a relationship with God & were openly gay, sleeping around, etc. I never confessed that because to me it was a lie and I had to much reverance for God to lie and declare I’m in relationship with Him but my lifestyle defied His Word! In my opinion for Tonex to still indulge in this activity says to me, and this is just my opinion – God I don’t have enough reverance for you to make or continue to make the attempt to live holy. To use covenant as a cloke to cover blatant sin is dead wrong. Yes fornication is wrong, two “unmarried” individuals (male & female) indulging in sexual activity is absolutely against God’s word. Proverbs gives a list of abominations! Amen! God hates a proud look! So I’m not trying to just beat up on homosexuals, and again even I myself right now struggle with that lifestyle, but I have not indulge myself, and it’s only by the grace and power of God, trust me!!! And that’s not just for Tonex, that’s for any and every person that professes the name of Christ, we have a duty to show the world that God is real. And God has the power to do the impossible. Myself, I agree with Tonex in regards to my situation, I am waiting on God and giving it to Him – but I don’t mind waiting! In the midst of waiting God is making me over (thanks Tonex)! However I’m waiting alone – not waiting in the bed with my “covenant” brother/lover!

  45. Alan Higgins says:

    Joyous, thankyou very much for your comments which are very encouraging. I like the way that even though you acknowledge your struggle, you are in no way trying to justify the sin

  46. Tola says:

    I know for a FACT that NONE of you anti-Tonex crusaders posting here have taken the time to REALLY seek God about Tonex. I know this for a FACT. I sought God and He showed me some things that none of you seem to have hit on. See because I actually sought GOD, I’m not about to post what He showed me here for you all to get your drunken debate on again. I will just continue to pray as God has directed me. That’s a hint for what God really needs all yall self-ordained preachers to do in this matter, as well. If you’re not being used of the devil, then I’d like to believe that you will join me in serious spiritual warfare for our brother, instead of shooting friendly fire and making the devil’s job easier. You see sometimes Jesus approached people like the Pharisees, with righteous judgement; other times he approached people like the woman at the well, with grace that leads to repentance. Many of you need to humbly ask God to show you how to discern which approach is needed in which situation. God forbid that you become the stumbling block you try to call out in others.

    Please feel free to repost this anywhere you find another drunken tirade posing as a “Christian discussion” aimed to fully take not only our brother Tonex out, but many other believers like him.

    Peace

  47. Alan Higgins says:

    Tola, God showed me something too. See below:

    Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Cor 6:9-10)

    24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. 26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. (Romans 1:24-27)

    Now the question is is what God showed you based on your feelings, some private revelation OR SCRIPTURE?

  48. Joyous says:

    Tola, I am in no way trying to bash or say anything to discredit the “man of God”. I love the brother, simply because he was real and he was honest. He actually helped me! How can I bash someone when I have the same struggle? However, I’m sharing my testimony in hopes to help others who are out there and that deal with the same struggle but are too afraid to be honest! Also I’m sharing my belief in regards to not only that lifestyle but sin in general. God has called us to be holy and no matter what we struggle with we have to live with integrity. It’s hard yes, it’s a constant war yes, but the word has to be the final authority that governs our lives. When opinions or feelings govern us we have been deceived. That’s just my humble take on things, I’m not replying trying argue with anyone or put anyone down. I hate that also amongst the body/once someone falls we are ready to beat them in the ground. We use the word as the tool to stone them. However the word tells me that if I find my brother/sister in a fault to restore them with a spirit of meekness…considering myself. But you are definitely right in that yes we need to pray for him so that God will change his mind.

  49. Pete says:

    I don’t know Tonex. I don’t know his heart. But I know what his music means to the people who listen to it. People who struggle every day with their sin and people who don’t struggle will see this interview differently. To each his own.

    One thing I keep seeing is the theme “don’t judge, don’t judge, just love just love,” as if the two are totally opposite.

    Love and judgment go hand in hand, look at the way God deals with his people!

    God says that judgment must begin with the family of God 1 Peter 4:17.

    And he says we are to judge righteous judgment. John 7:24.

    We have to judge matters, otherwise, how do we instruct our children to follow the ways of God? Here’s an example:

    “There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.” Proverbs 14:12

    This is judgment. And it’s righteous judgment. And the psalmist didn’t say this person’s end might be or could be destruction or this person needed to be loved or was just confused. He said the end IS destruction. And this judgment is motivated by love and a desire to see people succeed. He’s saying “Don’t go that way, that way will kill you!”

    Judgment has to be clear and directional, otherwise you get statements like “Maybe that’s okay, but I just don’t think that’s a good thing to do.” which really doesn’t communicate the importance or the seriousness of the matter at hand.

    If you’re headed towards a cliff that will plunge you into certain death and the road sign says “I don’t want to sound mean, and I don’t know which way is best for you, but I’ll certainly pray that God shows you the right way,” that doesn’t tell you anything, and it doesn’t help you.

    If the sign says “Don’t go this way! You’re headed towards a cliff and YOU WILL DIE! STOP!” That’s a clear message. So what if it steps on someone’s toes? If you’re determined to head that way despite the warning, that’s your choice, but the warning needs to be there. That’s what judgment is. That’s what judgment is for.

    You can take it or leave it, but it is what it is.

  50. Alan Higgins says:

    Thankyou for your comment Pete especially about judgment

  51. nombuso says:

    Let us stand for the Truth, the Word of God, Christ Himself (John 1:1-3, 14). John said : May I decrease and He( Jesus Christ) increase.When we cofess that Jesus is Lord, we are saying that Jesus is our King and whatsoever He says goes, we are saying that is in authority over ourlives,So guys its nolonger about self, self has to die “die to self”.Let us be crucified with him.Whats the point of salvation if we dont want to change and do the will of God.
    Thank you guys, its good to know that there are still Christians who are still willing to do the will of God and they are zealous for the Kingdom of God.
    Lets keep on praying for one another and pray for the gospel, the True Doctrine.
    God Bless You

  52. Gracefulsista says:

    I have to say I applaud him for his strength to be able to talk about his experience openly and gracefully. I can not judge him but pray that whatever his relationship is with the creator will be become stronger so he can handle what he needs to conquer in life. In the meantime, I say to continue to use your anointed gift to lift the spirits and spread the news about his wonderful grace.

  53. DJSTYLEZ says:

    Hey Alan, bro I have been all over the internet trying to show love yet discernment for the posters on these pages many of which have affections toward the same sex whether female or male. Man i have to tell you that this has had an impact on my ministry, it has subtracted from it as well added to it. What I mean is that while Anthony’s music has always been powerful and creatively amazing there has always been alongside the power a sexual or sin infused message that after his mariage was over became very prominent, the message became self not directed to Him, this always worried me alway had me wondering if he would ever show signs of being at peace.

  54. DJSTYLEZ says:

    It is only an observation but his struggled with feminine qualities even in Out The Box these are things people choose to show, you choose to walk like a man and not a fool, you choose to be who you are, however the struggle may be if it is this feeling of affections toward the same sex it is important that we find a solution and post that solution. God’s word is the solution and i have also seen studies done on what drives people, the sensory receptors in the brain are over time and consistent emotions toward the same feeling cause a joining together of these receptors,, they have found that with reprogramming especially with young kids that have been molested or abused there is freedom, the kids needed to be told that the feeling of love/thanks or scolding should not be rewarded by intimate affections (molestation) this in some are programmed responses and take a while for many to be freed from it. It is painful to see and hurts anyone who has to loved ones go through it. But the truth is it is a choice that with love and pray can be helped, I do not treat it as a desease however if you are born again we must see a solution in the Gospel, as He has said renew the mind what is being done is reprogramming through simple techniques which can be difficult to impose because it is painful to see them relate it to this feeling. I am not saying Anthony is like this however if this is the case He must be informed. Pray for him and my brothers and sisters guard your hearts.

  55. DJSTYLEZ says:

    We must never fear, but have joy in Christ. This subject is a subject about gays thinking its okay to be so and still be christian. This is not what Jesus in his love said is okay. It isn’t however how we tackle this issue will be the the way Jesus handled all sinners with love however those that twist scripture which can not be conformed to sin is to be corrected. So this Blog is needed. It is important we speak apon this subject because here is a man who claims to be christian and love sin. Okay love, what is love speaking of something with affection.

    Clearly Anthony in these videos has twisted his own understanding and conviction to what he feels in his emotions, you can see on his face that he doesn’t even completely believe his own words. I don’t mean this to sound bad or in a any bad way but on observing them it shows a man confused with himself not with scripture but himself, he is lying to himself..truth wont set him free, only Jesus will.

  56. Lorri says:

    Additionally since you all harp on no practicing homosexual getting into heaven, He clearly stated he is NOT practicing any sexual activity at all. so I guess your judgment to hell should be rescinded then huh?

    Perhaps instead you can go down this list of “perfected” Christians and send some of them make sure they pass your “test”.

    BTW, God doesn’t allow us to “test” who will be in heaven..he admonishes us to allow HIM to make that call we are to pray and LOVE…try it u might find that non-Christians receive u better and might actually listen to what you have to say about salvation…

  57. Alan Higgins says:

    Lorri, it is not us that sar saying that no homosexuals will enter heaven but God has already spoken about this in his written word. We are allowed to use righteous judgement

  58. Acts 2:28 says:

    Tonex is not right! What he is doing is a shame and an abomination. For you,” young in the gospel,” Jesus taught that if a man is going to follow after Him “He must first deny Himself, take up his cross and follow him.” It doesn’t matter what you are struggling with Saint’s, we are to overcome it, if we want to be saved. Rev. 21:7.
    Psychology says accept it, God says overcome it.
    I know Tonex and I think like many others in the body of Christ, he is reaping what he sowed. When we judge others God says that the same will come to us! Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment that you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, “Let me take the speck out of your eye,” when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye. Matt 1:5
    That’s why sometimes we pray and pray to be delivered and cannot overcome. Intercessors need to know this Law of God. Sometimes the person you are praying for can’t be delivered because they have caused a stumbling block for others by judging them. God’s law says you will be met by the same demons that came after the person you judged. I’ve heard Tonex and plenty of others including myself make flipped judgmental comments about others situations, most of the time we didn’t understand that we were causing our own demise when we opened our mouth. I believe that God will forgive, deliver and restore Tonex when he has served the sentence of his own judgmental spirit and word for others. I remember when he stood in a pastor’s pulpit in a Las Vegas and before the service he found out the pastor had a problem with porn. Tonex mocked the pastor and that pastor’s anointing by continuing to use the phrase “Yea, right, that will be great! Later he tried to influence key leaders in that church that the pastor had a problem. So, Remember Saints nothing just happens. God is a just God. I talked to that pastor about it when i heard about this and He said. ‘We all need to stop Judging others and judge ourselves. ‘ He also said that’s why the body is week because we take this law of judging others lightly.
    Peace!

  59. MissN says:

    I think its easier to pray for the brother then to condemn him. All Christians know right from wrong whether they choose to do it or not. I hear more mouth against him then prayers for him. Why don’t someone put a message board for prayer than opinions

  60. Kaye says:

    Reading many of the posts can only lead me to believe that we as Christians should take heed to this and get up and get to work.

    To those that believe that homosexuality, pornography, sexual immortality, or the lack of moral intelligence is alright with God…..you are so mistaken.

    For the record, not agreeing with Tonex lifestyle, or his acceptance of changing from his sexual preference is the right thing to do is really his sin sick problem. The Bible is a blue print for us to live our lives and pattern after everyday. Instead we have so many people debating over issues to try to justify their wrongs for right.

    Homosexuality is wrong. But the Bible clearly tells us that if someone is wrong the elders are to talk to them. If they don’t change their ways then bring them before the church. If they still don’t change their ways then treat them like an outsider.

    Therefore, judging or no judging…homosexuality is wrong. As for me and my house we do serve the Lord. Yesterday. Today. And forever. I will not buy anymore of Tonex’ music or attend anymore of his concerts. You cannot serve two masters. You cannot serve God and live of the world. Sorry guys say what you want to but the facts are the facts. God created male and female, not male for male nor female for female, male for beast, nor female for beast.

    If more Christians would stand for what is right and band together, then the world will be in a better place.

  61. nikegirlfan says:

    When I was little I didn’t really think he was like that. When I was about 11 my mom and I were talking about him and she said, ” I think he’s gay!”, I said, ” If he ain’t he really acts like it!”. I hoping it wasn’t true. I guess the best we can do for him is pray. I hope he comes to senses though. Love and peace, Shania a.k.a Nikegirlfan.

  62. nikegirlfan says:

    I meant to put was in between I and hoping. Sorry!

  63. Márcia says:

    Hi, I’m from Brazil and always been a fan of Tonex. And preety much shocked to know that people think is ok to be “Christian” and homossexual at the same time. Either you’re a REAL Christian, saved and washed by the blood of Jesus or NOT. There is no way to be both.

    He has to make a choice!!!!!

  64. Timsharmony says:

    Alan-
    I want to encourage you to continue spreading the TRUTHS about God’s Word. So many times, when we try to speak the truths, people (christians) will use th phrase “guess you’re all saved and you got it all figured out”. No…see what they fail to realize is as we minister to others, we minister FIRST to ourselves. In order for you to know the things of God as you do, you must first have a relationship with Him. It’s not your problem when other people choose not to draw nearer to God as you have chosen to do. Hold your head up and continue to strive to be better, and to do better and ,above all, spreading God’s Word and His love!! I’d rather find out later that I was wrong for believing God’s Word than to find out I was wrong for not believing it!!!

  65. Christie says:

    When asked if he ‘struggled’ with homosexuality, he reported — “NO, it wasn’ a struggle.”

    I don’t know about you guys but, whenever I’m resisting sin and/or temptation, it’s definitely a struggle. Perhaps this shows his the level of really trying to resist homosexuality.

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