Everybody has a day when we will have to enter God’s courtroom but the day and time is unspecified. However, we will be dragged into this court by death. So the question is what happens immediately after death?

I believe the explanation below explains it very well and also biblically (which is all that matters at the end of the day). This is taken from The Brethren Revival Fellowship website. The actual article can be found here but I have copied it below. It is a long read but worth it.

On Tuesday morning, September 11, 2001, thousands of people died-wives and husbands, fathers and mothers, married and single persons-most thrust quickly into eternity–primarily because of a terrorist jihad aimed at the destruction of Israel and those who support that nation. The violent attacks caught the world by surprise. We pray that the shock and fear and inconvenience caused by the dastardly deed will bring many to repentance and salvation, and that all of us will reflect on our lives, making new commitments of devotion to Jesus Christ.

On Thursday morning, August 9, 2001 our youngest daughter, Berdene Walmer was promoted to glory. She was diagnosed with a rare type of chordoma brain tumor already in April, 1993. Her sight and speech and hearing and swallowing had all been affected by the tumor growth. Berdene’s husband, Tom Walmer, arranged for the best care that the medical profession was able to give. But after seven major surgeries (some radical, all in the nose, throat, neck, and head area)-and three series of radiation the tumor again was aggressive in its growth, and pressed on those areas of the brain that control the breathing mechanism and the body temperature. Berdene was in a coma for six days before she went to be with the Lord. Her departure from this life was gentle and peaceful.

Berdene was 24 years old when she sensed that her sight and hearing and speech were becoming more and more impaired. In addition, she was having severe pain in the neck and head area, and was finding it more and more difficult to swallow food. Early in 1993 an MRI revealed the presence of a very large and rare kind of brain tumor, called a “chordoma” tumor. That diagnosis was followed by the surgeries and the radiation treatments.

The chief neurologist at Johns Hopkins Hospital (along with a team of medical helpers) performed the first two surgeries-first sawing the roof of her mouth to remove a portion of the tumor, and then sawing her jawbone in half and splitting her tongue to remove another major section of the tumor. Later, at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, another surgery involved cutting around her nose and slicing her face down over the upper lip, to get behind the eye to remove the tumor which had been pushing the eye out of its socket. The proton beam radiation (given at the Harvard University cyclotron) involved delivering two billion hydrogen protons into specific areas of the head every second.

During the eight and one half years of discomfort and suffering, Berdene did remarkably well. Her mind continued to function right up until the day of the coma. She was able to use her limbs to do some of her work. Her attitude was positive. Her husband was faithful and supportive. The most difficult trial was coping with the death of their 22 month old son, who, after Berdene’s second surgery, was killed in an automobile accident.

In spite of all the difficulties, Berdene spent time helping to proofread the BRF Witness articles and several of my books. She attended a number of Annual Conferences and BRF meetings in earlier years. During her illness, much of her time was spent writing notes of encouragement to people who suffered in various ways. During just one month she wrote cards and notes to fifty persons.

But now death has come. At times when God chooses to call a loved one into the eternal world, by way of the valley of death, we are inclined to ask many questions. What happens when a person dies? Where do the dead go immediately after death? What are they doing now? Can those who have died, see us? Are consciousness and memory retained after death? The article in this issue of the BRF Witness is an attempt to do a Bible study on the subject, “What happens immediately after death?”

–Harold S. Martin

What Happens Immediately After Death?

By Harold S. Martin

The Bible is primarily a book about life. It tells us how to experience everlasting life, and also how to enjoy an abundant life here on earth. Even John 3:16 talks about “life.” The writer says, “For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” The Bible is not primarily a book about death, yet it treats the subject of death many times because death is part of the cycle of life in God’s plan

All of us, barring the return of Christ, are going to die. Some will grow old and die; some will die at an earlier age. We fade like flowers and wither like grass (Psalm 103:15). We all experience aging and illness and frailties of some kind. And although we can be thankful for the wonders of modern medicine and for the skills of dedicated doctors-the fact still remains that death will come to all of us. And at death, the body will return to the dust of the earth, and the soul will be carried immediately–either into the presence of Christ (for those who die in Christ), or, it will enter into a place called “Hades” (for those who die in their sins).

Following death, there is an intermediate state-the time between death and the final judgment. And there is also a final state-the eternal destiny which will last forever. In this study, we want to look at the intermediate state-what happens during the interval between death and the final judgment.


Jesus told about the self-centered ungodly rich man (in Luke 16). The ungodly man died, “and in hell he lifted up his eyes, being in torments” (Luke 16:23/KJV). The word translated “hell” is “Hades,” a word which in the New Testament is used to describe the place where the unsaved dead go immediately upon death.

The Greek word for “hell” as a final destiny, is a different word. The word “gehenna” was used to describe the Valley of Hinnom, the garbage dump on the south side of Jerusalem. It was the place where wild dogs gnashed their teeth as they fought over the garbage of the dump. Gehenna is the final place of punishment; Hades is the intermediate place of the dead.

Jesus (in Luke 16) says the souls of the wicked go to “Hades” after death, but in Matthew 10:28 Jesus speaks about hell also. There, He says that both soul and body are cast into “gehenna” after the resurrection and final judgment. In Matthew 10 Jesus is talking about final judgment, but in Luke 16 He is talking about what happens immediately after death.

Hades is like a county jail (a temporary prison), until the sentence is determined. The Lake of Fire (gehenna) is like a state penitentiary, a permanent place of punishment.

While “Hades” is not the final destiny of the wicked, it is a place of conscious suffering and of despair place of torment. The man in Luke 16 wanted someone to dip the tip of his finger in water to cool his tongue (Luke 16:24). At another place, the Bible says that “the Lord knows how to … reserve the unjust under punishment for (until) the day of judgment” (2 Peter 2:9). Hades is a temporary prison where the wicked dead are kept under punishment until the day of judgment and the final sentence is named.

The purpose of the Judgment is not so much to determine who is saved and who is lost. The matter of salvation has been determined by our decision regarding Jesus Christ here in this life. For example, John 6:47 says, “He who believes in me has everlasting life.” The word “believes” is a strong word: It means “to embrace,” and “to cling to;” it includes repentance and obedience. Those who sincerely receive Jesus Christ as Saviour and Lord of their lives, are assured of eternal life. By way of contrast, those who do not know God, and who do not obey the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ “shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord” (2 Thessalonians 1:8-9).

And so the final Judgment is not so much designed to determine who is saved and who is lost, as it is to determine the degree of punishment and the degree of reward. Every human being will some day stand before the judgment bar of God. There will be rewards and there will be appropriate punishment. Exactly when and how God will accomplish all this, is not really important for us to know. But in Revelation 20:1314, the word translated “hell” (KJV) is “Hades.” And so when the text says that “death and Hades” will deliver up the dead who were in them, those in Hades (the temporary prison) will be judged, and then cast into the Lake of Fire. The Lake of Fire will be the eternal destiny of the unsaved.


The Bible teaches that those who are saved, having embraced the blood of Jesus on the cross (11 Peter 1:18-19), will at death go to be with Christ, in a state of conscious bliss–and are immediately in fellowship with Christ.

The Apostle Paul declared that “to be absent from the body” is to be “present with the Lord” (2 Corinthians 5:8). And later, he says that to die, is “to depart and be with Christ, which is far better’ (Philippians 1:23).

Jesus speaks of the immediate abode of the saved dead, as “Paradise.” He said to the thief on the cross, “Today you will be with me in Paradise” (Luke 23:43). The righteous dead are in the presence of Christ, in a place called Paradise, awaiting the resurrection of the body the judgment, the final reward-and the future lif6 in Heaven.

It might be helpful to explain that before the death and resurrection of Jesus, “Hades” had two regions, one for the righteous and the other for the unrighteous. Not only were the wicked in Hades, but so were the righteous in Old Testament times. In the account of the rich man and Lazarus (in Luke 16), before the death and resurrection of Jesus, there was a “great gulf” (Luke 16:26) between the two regions. But they were close enough to each other that the self-centered rich man could communicate with the patriarch Abraham.

In the later parts of the New Testament, the abode of the saved is described with the word “paradise.” The Apostle Paul was “caught up into Paradise” (2 Corinthians 12:4). Our Lord Jesus says that those who overcome shall “eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God” (Revelation 2:7).

The Scriptures indicate that Christ descended into Hades before He went back to the Father, at the time of His crucifixion and resurrection and ascension. Acts 2:27 says that His soul was not left in Hades and that His body did not see corruption. Acts 2:32-33 says that Jesus was raised up and exalted at the right hand of the Father. And Ephesians 4:8-10 says that when Christ “ascended on high, He led captivity captive.” It is the belief of many evangelical Bible teachers that it was at this time that those in the righteous portion of Hades were led into the place called Paradise in New Testament times. Jesus descended into Hades, set the Old Testament saints free, and took them to Paradise to be with Him. And now, when saved persons die, “to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord” (2 Corinthians 5:8).

If the above Scriptures are properly interpreted, then immediately after death, the saved find themselves in Paradise and the lost find themselves in Hades. Exactly what activities will take place during the time between death and judgment (in these temporary abodes) is not revealed in Scripture. The Bible is restrained in what it says about life immediately following death. There are many questions about life after death that go beyond the limits of our understanding. Now we see through a glass darkly, but a marvelous day is coming when those mysteries will be completely unveiled.

We do know two major facts. Unbelievers will be in a state of anguish and torment (Luke 16:2328; 2 Peter 2:9). The saved will be resting from their labors in joyful satisfaction (Revelation 14:13; Acts 7:59; Philippians 1:23; 2 Corinthians 5:8). The spirits of those who die in their sins will be ushered immediately in Hades, and after the Judgment, both body and soul will be delivered into the Lake of Fire. The spirits of those who die in Christ will be ushered immediately into the

Paradise of God, and upon receiving new bodies, eventually will be transported into the final heavenly home, which Jesus says He is preparing for His people (John 14:1-3).


Christ achieved victory over death when He arose from the grave, and His followers have the promise of an afterlife in Paradise and eventually in the heavenly Home. However, death is still associated with sadness even for the Christian, because of the trauma of separation. But death is no longer oppressive for us because we have the assurance of entering Christ’s presence when we die-and that is far better than life here on earth (Philippians 1:23). Still, death is a time of grief and sadness.

There are three observations about dying victoriously:

1) While as believers, we prepare for death, death is not the central focus of our lives.

The central focus for us is the resurrection. Philippians 3:9-10 expresses the truth that we aim to be found in Christ, and that our goal is to know “the power of his resurrection.” We look to the day when Jesus will appear and abolish death, and transform our lowly bodies to be like His glorious body (Philippians 3:21). We look at death in light of Christ’s great triumph–His return as King of kings–raising the dead and bringing life here on earth to a conclusion. While we prepare for death, death is not the central focus of our lives. Our focus is on the resurrection.

2) While we are burdened for those we love and leave behind at death, we recognize that our dying will be great gain.

When we approach the borders of death, we are mindful of the fact that those we leave behind will be lonel and will grieve at our passing. Letting our friends behind is always painful. Hearing the news about a sudden death, or standing by the bedside of one who is dying, is always distressful. But when we arrive in the Paradise of God, the mysteries in our lives will become clear, and God will demonstrate the marvels of His grace that saved us. We are told in Ephesians 2:7 that “in the ages to come” Christ Jesus will “show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us. Even the hard times which we face in this life are products of the kindness of God.

3) While we enjoy life here on earth, it is enjoyed only temporarily, because we are ready to depart from it.

Berdene was ready to depart from this life. Only days before entering into a coma, I had finished reading portions from the Bible and praying with her. She was unable to speak audibly, but wrote this note: “I thought I would go (in death) after we read and prayed; I wanted so much to go. Mother was holding my hand. I’m not afraid. I just want so much to go, but God knows the timing.”

People of the world are not ready to depart from this life. They try and crack funny jokes, and kid around with each other. If they do talk about the afterlife, it is mostly about Saint Peter with a bunch of keys. Sometimes it seems that such conduct is engaged in to hide some of the deep feelings of fear and uncertainty that worldlings are living with. Those who are genuinely committed to serving Christ can truly enjoy life because death is not a constant dread. We think about it. It is an enemy. It brings sadness. We are not anxious for it. But deep down within we know that “to die is gain.” For the Christian, it means “to depart and to be with Christ which is far better.”

Our reparation for death begins with faith in Jesus Christ, repentance for sin, and receiving Christian baptism. It continues with believing on the Lord Jesus Christ and the work He did for us on the cross. It issues into a life that moment by moment seeks to walk in obedience to God’s Word, and to live in fellowship with His church, and to move day by day under the direction of the Holy Spirit.

For the genuine disciple of Christ, death is faced with a sense of anticipation. We look at death-like a prisoner, awaiting release from prison; like a schoolchild, when the end of the term is near; like a migrant bird, ready to fly south; and like a person in the hospital, ready to go home.

Medical science can help people die relatively painlessly, but only the Christian message of hope through Christ can help us die victoriously. Let us make it a point to avoid foolish ways of living, and seek to live wisely, skillfully, and according to God’s pattern. None of us knows how soon our lives will be snuffed out. The uncertainty of life and the certainty of death should cause us to make commitments to follow the Lord more carefully, and to bring the unsaved into a right relationship with God through faith in Jesus Christ.


I have summarized this in a diagram which you can view here

May this reality of death cause us as believers to reach out to the lost at any cost.

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    • Raymond Barber says:

      I understand what and how you are explaining the happenings after death but, My Bible say’s in Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
      This tells me you made your decision while you lived as to where you are going. There is no time lasp between death and judgement

      • paul says:

        @ rRaymond!

        that quotation Heb 9:27 is literaly telling us what awaits for a man after death! is doesn’t neccesarily means final judgement is just after death!

        As you’v read from the main text, there is a time of space between death and final judgement and a mans position within this intermediate time has a direct bearing on where he will go in the final judgement…

        why? because after final judgement..there will be NO earth but a “New Jeruselem” (literaly Heaven) where ONLY the kingdom of God will reign and his presence will be with men….that is totally different from the millinium rule with christ on earth!

        take time and read this my dear….Rev 21…thank you and i love you!

        • Chuck says:

          John said “I saw a NEW heaven and a NEW earth for the former had passed away, and the “new Jeruselem” came down from God out of heaven, meaning the new Jeruselem is the Kingdom of God that rules over the new earth (Paradise, that was God’s intention from the creation of man) with Jesus as the king.
          Yes do read Rev 21 and I most surly love you all too!

        • Andre says:

          My understanding of Hebrews 9:27 by the power of the Holy Spirit is that if you die without Christ you will be judged according to your works (which are like filthy rags) Romans 6:23 states death is due to all of us. Now when you are alive and die (give your life to Christ) you are now being judged. The judgement for believers is not based on our works but compensation for our rewards due.

  2. Michelle says:

    Do you know if pastors will present us to God when we stand before him for our rewards.

    • Jerusha says:

      NO .. no pastor wil present us to GOD.we are responsible for our deeds.

    • Embarae says:

      Probley not, Only Jesus is our Mediator. He will be our judge and no man will be able to do that. We all will stand before the Great White Throne. Pastors are to teach and preach the Word, in this world. That is all. Jesus is our reward.

    • Chuck says:

      NO human man can represent you before God. If you believe in the judgement your pastor will be in line with you!

  3. Rabih Slim says:

    hellow there, i want to adress not only Christians but 4 all humanity, i am a christian, and eventhough i believe in god, i live sometimes through moments in which my thoughts get indulged in wicked ideas, especially when it’s related to sexual pleasure, and many things that tap through the feminin body and it has been a problem to me letting it go. i believe that god is the only saviour, and the only way that can divert us from these dark channels. i hope that everyone who visited this site pray that we become stronger than surrendering to our body demands and our pleasure which is most of the time covered with sins, and is a deed of satan. let us pray to get rid of anger, jalousy, and pride. because even the son of god, Jesus himself was very humble to born within a little cave and grow up in poverty. even the son of god himself got crucified and had tormented with the worst and ugliest painful and humiliating way. he didn’t spill his rage over the crouds that were mocking at him, instead he said to his father: ” father forgive them because they don’t know, what they are doing” .

  4. mike says:

    your soul leaves the body at death really? my bible says the spirit leaves the body,and returns to god,it does not say that the soul leaves the body.genesis says that man was formed from the dust and that god breathed into his nostrils the spirit or breath of life,and at death the body returns to the dust from which it came ,and the spirit returns to god.immortality of the soul is not taught within the pages of the bible,immortality is a free gift from god,and god is the only one now who possess it.

    • Embarae says:

      If you read Genesis 35:18 Scriptures says that Rachel had a hard time with labor and finally her soul departed from her body.
      [ and so it was , as her soul was departing (for she died), that she called his name Ben-Oni…] so the soul and the spirit depart at death. We are three body, soul and spirit.

  5. mike says:

    the belief in the immortality of the soul long predates christianity.the egyptians were among the first to believe in the afterlife.most religions believe in the immediate afterlife and most expositors of the immortal soul admit it is not taught within the pages of the bible.a soul is what you arer it is not something you have.

  6. Alan Higgins says:

    Your soul is your mind, will and emotions so your soul does leave as well

    Case in point
    Rev 6: 9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”

    These are the martyrs. How did they know they were killed and how did they remember? How can they cry out to God?

  7. Alex says:

    Thank you so much for this article brother. This was definitely and eye opener and answered a few questions with Biblical truths.

    I never really grasped the scripture where Jesus said to the thief, “Today you will be with me in Paradise”, until now.

    The “TODAY” part I never truly thought about. Me and a friend always had questions on where we go immediately after death. The most common thing I’ve heard from people is that we sleep until resurrection. But that scripture from Luke is a Biblical answer.

    Thanks again man.

    • zaggle says:

      hmmm… Did Jesus go to paradise that day? I think not for He was dead in the grave (hades) for three days and three nights. It all depends on where you put the comma of which there are none in the greek. He is either saying it on that day, or he is referring to that day.

      And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, today shalt thou be with me in paradise.
      And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee today, shalt thou be with me in paradise.
      Luke 23:43

      I think the answer is obvious to all with a brain. Mans souls is his life and when the life is gone it is death. Man is not an immortal being, only those who have believed will receive immortality at the resurection. Ii is something man will ‘put on’ 1 Cor 15:53.

      The soul that sinneth it shall die. Ezek. 18:20
      For the life (soul) of the flesh is in the blood Lev. 17:11

      To say that man has eternal life independantly of ressurection is the sam satanic lie told by satan in Gen 3:4 “You shall not surely die”

      • Lee McBride says:

        Jesus also said that if you have seen me, you have seen the Father (John 14). Jesus and the Father are One. Through the Father the thief would have been with Jesus (the Lord) in paradise.

        By the way, the punctuation argument is obtuse. Why would Jesus state, “I say unto thee today…” Isn’t that kind of obvious? Kind of like, “No kidding, you’re telling me this today??”

  8. ... says:

    On the day of judgement, all christians who believe in more than one GOd or that jesus is the son of god, which he is NOT, will go to hell.
    islam is the right path, n im proud 2 be a muslim.!

    • doly says:

      who said dat Christians believe in Three gods??Have u ever gone through the Bible??i believe vt ur words dat u didnt .. We believe in one GOD.before posting something, u please get the full knowledge about Christianity and The HOLY BIBLE and then only u r supposed to comment..

    • paul says:

      ma dear friend in islam, not understanding the trinity by Islam and “even” most christians doesn’t mean it is not in existence….and that is when believe or “faith” comes in….u dont need to understand how the computer is manufactured before you can use it! if only you decide to believe pressing a “key pad” will make a letter appear..it works for you.

      but let me blow ur mind..do u know e TRINITY..plural bt ONE is revealed in the Q’uran..

      check these quotations out…..where pronouns like US and WE is used for ALLAH who is claimed to be one…i hope simple english will not allow US and WE to b used fr smtn dat is “purely” ONE…
      Read and think about them well…it is logically(humanly) nt possible but Spiritually soooo possible!

      Quran: 75:19…….34:10….19:21……. jst thnk abt them n gv me the feedback!i love u ma brother…

      • Noliner says:

        In Islam they promote ETERNAL SEX AND ETERNAL DRUNKENNESS on the place they called paradise..

        man may that.s HELL

        Just logic here on earth its forbidden and there its legal muslims said they will be having 70 virginsbe their mates and they are angels??????

      • Noliner says:

        that is their life after death.

    • Dustin says:

      Islam is a twisted demonic rewrite of the Holy Bible, nothing more. I would think any intelligent person could see that, as God’s image, and his nature is clearly seen in all things. Islam’s “god” would have never made people, or given a poop about anyone but itself. It would be chaotic, destructive, resentful, and just plain satan-like. Make sure you do your research, and call out =)

  9. Alan Higgins says:

    First of all you have made the mistake that most muslims make. Christians only believe in ONE God not three. You cannot have your sins forgiven by doing Good works. http://www.needgod.com

    • David H says:

      Christians believe in God, but this God is always been Jesus! Then you have other members such as the Father and the Holy Spirit. Each member has a godship status. This is the Trinity, THREE Gods in ONE. Very confusing logic, the only logic among the vast messages God sent in the past.

      God is the Almighty the ONE and Sustainer of the universe and the Absolute. That how Abraham knew him, that’s how Moses knew him, that’s how David knew him, that’s how Jonah knew him, and so forth and so on.

      This Trinity logic ONE in THREE and THREE in ONE is a man-made myth and Jesus is totally innocent of such claim.

      • Noliner says:

        There is only One God in John 10:30 “I and the Father are one” and “Before Abraham,I am Jn.8:58″ that is His name when Moses ask Him :”I AM THAT I AM” It defines eternity.
        He is also called Son of Man… He has Humanity so He was 100% God and 100% Human when He was on earth.In Hebrew language when you speak the word Son of… it does not mean Offspring but equality. so Jesus is the Son of God, He is also the Son of Man.

        Sadik Examine Bible and Study theology First! as we Christians examine your Quran and Study it.

  10. pete deforest says:

    i was once lost many times in sin, but i found peace in jesus my savior and lord. i still have days when i am tempted by satin, but i know when i call upon my savior jesus, i am saved. my most favorite verse in the bible is john 3-16. i also know the bible explains itself in this way. Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth.

  11. Michelle (2) says:

    Mr. Higgins,
    Thank you for your help on my research paper. Ha! You did not even know it, but I have gotten a lot of my information from your site and I now know a lot more about the topic of what happens after people die. I really did find your view the most supported in Scripture than any other view I researched.
    Thanks! May God bless,

  12. Henry says:

    Hi Alan,
    I don’t want it to appear as if I am disagreeing with the article you presented here but in order to get to the bottom of Biblical truth we also need to raise question that may very well seem conflicting or controversial. The question I have therefore is how do we reconcile what is said in the artilce with Ecc 9:5 which says, “the dead knoweth nothing” and even verse 10?

    • Alan Higgins says:

      Scripture interprets scripture. We know that Ecc 9:5 it cannot mean that they know nothing at all because if you look Rev (6:9-11), we see those who have died remembering that they have died, crying out to God and hearing what God told them

      9When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. 10They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?” 11Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and brothers who were to be killed as they had been was completed.

      If you look at the context, this is taken from mans view and not Gods. For example earlier on it say

      All share a common destiny—the righteous and the wicked, the good and the bad,

      and we know that this is not the case. Context is very important

  13. Henry says:

    PS: Paul in 1 Thess 4 “alleges” that those that are dead are “asleep”.

    13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

    This passage of scripture is not at odds with Ecc 9:5. Again in Mark 5:39 we see Jesus saying that Jairus’ daughter was “asleep” though the people from Jairus’ house confirmed that she was “dead”. If she was merely sleeping as in our understanding of sleeping why did Jesus command those present not to tell anyone that He had “awaken” Jairus’ daughter?

    In the past on another blog called Yomi Says (now inactive) we looked at the verse where Jesus told the thief that “today you shall be with me in paradise”. Yomi suggested that because of the fact that the scriptures were translated from Hebrew to Greek, then to English little elements of the translation might me lost such as the punctuation and as such the comma might have been after the word “today” instead of before in the orginal context. The verse would thus read, “Verily I say unto you today, you will be with me in Paradise.” This would then fit in with those scriptures that say that those that are dead or asleep or they knoweth nothing.

    But then there is still the problem of Jesus’ story about the rich man who was dead and begged Abraham to send Lazarus to give him a bit of water to quench his thirst. Perhaps this was not meant to be taken literrally as Jesus spoke of the Kingdom and the things that would happen mostly in parables. I believe this was another parable about Jesus’ own work and ministry. Why? The story says that the angel carried away Lazarus into Abraham’s bosom. Are we to believe then that when the righteous die they are literally taken up into Abraham’s bosom? Abraham would need to have a very large bosom! But if we look at the broader perspective Abraham’s bosom could be a reference to the promise of salvation and becoming Abraham’s seed/heirs through Jesus Christ.

    Verse 31 of the passage of Luke 16 is most profound:

    “And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.”

    I believe this was a reference to Jesus Himself being rejected by those unbelievers who would still not accept Him even though He rose from the dead. In any event this story seems to be a continuation of the theme that Jesus was illustrating from the previous verses about the fact that if we cannot deal faithfully with unrighteous mammon who will trust us with the true riches? This was another way of demonstrating how difficult it was for a rich man to go to heaven compared to the poor.

    I think Matthew Henry’s comentary on Luke 16 is a useful read here. http://mhc.biblecommenter.com/luke/16.htm

  14. Henry says:

    I take the point you are trying to make but I would have much rather discuss this with you in private a little more. As I said before I don’t want to appear as if I am at odds with you on this issue.

    Context is indeed everything though. Do you notice then that the scripture made reference ONLY to the souls of those that had been martyred for the gospel as opposed to all of the righteous that had died? On this basis then we could conclude that not all the righteous that had died were with the souls of those that had been slain. This would mean then that some of the righteous go one place whilst the martyrs went to another? If this were the case then this could still support the “view” that some of those who are dead are actually asleep and knoweth nothing! In any event surely if the thief on the cross was with Jesus in Paradise at the moment of death then surely Paradise could not be the place under the altar from which the martyrd souls cried out or is it?

    Could it also be that the event at which the souls of those that had been martyred crying out to God occurred at a specific point in time? I ask this because I get the “impression” that this event was part of the prophesy which continued from Rev 4:1 where the angel told John to come up and see the things that must occur “after this”. And note also that John is seeing things that are prophetic or in other words that must come to pass in the future with the opening of the seals!

  15. Henry says:

    In any event the key point is that scripture assures us that “Blessed are the dead that die in Christ” because your salvation is already assured irrespective of what takes place immediately after death. This in-between time until the judgement is not that important at all because whilst we are in Christ we cannot “lose” our salvation in death.

  16. Alan Higgins says:

    Thats one way to look at it Henry. By the way, I’ve checked out your blog and like what I see so far. Keep it up and continue to be a Berean

  17. Henry says:

    Hi Alan,
    Thanks for checking out my site and thanks for your encouragement.

  18. Thuli says:

    I need help. My mother died on 2008 and I am struggling to deal with this. She was Saved and accaepted Christ as her Saviour. I am also born again but I struggle with that I am in a homosexual relationship with a woman. I find that I really love her and cannot imagine living my life without her. she is also born again and feels the same way about me. Please help me because i want to be obedient to God’s Word but i struggle with temptation.

  19. sarah says:

    I just wanted to say this site has been somewhat helpful.
    Although if we all are still not satisfied, we can ask God, and He will reveal it to us.

    Thuli we all get caught up in this world either with materialistic things or relationships. But let me tell you, dont have any “soul ties”…right now Your partner has the custody of your soul…and you know very well who should be having it instead. So ask God to give you the strength and also forgiveness. This might just make u land up in eternal torture otherwise. At the same time love people around and care for them, limit it to that.

    Be careful is what I would suggest. Sorry if I was rude or anything. Hope it was of some use.

    I would ask you people to pray for my Dad s soul to rest in peace as He passed away this month , Oct’2010.

    Keep praying, Love Sarah.

  20. ANAND says:

    what happens who dies without knowing christ?

  21. Best you should edit the post name title What happens immediately after death? Real Christianity to more suited for your content you create. I loved the blog post nevertheless.

  22. Brent says:

    Hi I’m just wondering what if the Bible says the dead are sleeping when they die, or if they go to Hades or “Paradise” like Jesus said on the cross to the thief?

  23. Arietta Thompson says:

    Alan Haggins,
    Dear Alan, I came across your website today and was impressed with your straight talking, honest and sincere attempts to “tell it like it is”. Few people who know the truth of an unpopular happening or up against media moguls and are yet brave enough to expose it. I like your stance and therefore feel, as a Christian, I should make contact with you. The facts of events which happened to me and have not yet been revealed, I would like to share with you, and perhaps your readers may take comfort in the fact that when faced with intensity of false accusations, persecution, imprisonment, defamation, ruin, is the time for a Real Christian (myself) to demonstrate (rather than accept defeat) the unfailing love of God for all involved, His promises and our obedience to His will in their lives (changed assignments), are also the qualities that make non-Christians, see, experience and accept the wonder working power of God. I would be happy to exchange contact details in confidence. kind regards.

  24. Glenn says:

    Everybody wants to go to Heaven, but nobody wants to die…lol

    • doly says:

      ha ha ha.:) yea exactly.. but people who r in Christ i mean who have d faith that dey wil b wit christ in the next moment they left dis world really waits for HIS call.:) wat do u say??

  25. lisa jefferies says:

    i am part christian but what will happen if god has an enermy but they are kind to others will god send them to hell or will he let them in his world,because if god did not like them but he liked god what would happen i try to read about it but it never comes up in bibles or internet.

  26. lisa jefferies says:

    i am part christian but what will happen if god has an enermy but they are kind to others will god send them to hell or will he let them in his world

  27. Alan Higgins says:

    I hope this link explains who will go to hell and ho to escape it. https://realchristianity.wordpress.com/a-message-to-non-christians/

  28. Joe says:

    What is missing here is that the Word says we are body, soul, and spirit after we are born again. Soul is breath life, the life is in the blood. When we die we take our last breath. The word says we have no knowledge or anything to do with anything under the sun. We are asleep waiting the return of Christ. If we are in paradise or heaven after death, then why does he have to retiurn. We are in the grave (hades) = gravedom where there is no contiousness of time. The first thing a dead person knows is the return of Christ when he is risen from the dead. Those are the true facts of the Word. “Today in paradise” should be translated, “i am telling you today, right now, that you will be with me in paradise. Paradise is a place on earth. It is when Christ comes to establish His kingdom on earth, that is the third heaven and earth paradise.

    • Alan Higgins says:

      If we look at Rev 6:9-11 it says:

      9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne.
      10 They cried out with a loud voice, “O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”
      11 Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.

      These are those who have been killed yet we know they are conscious because they remember that they were killed. They spoke to God, they heard God to tell them to wait and this is all before Christ has returned to resurrect their bodies

    • paul says:

      ma brother Joe…lets consider these texts and think through if ther will be earth paradise!

      Rev 21……read carefully and u wl identify that after an earthly mellinium rule with christ! this earth will get lost…..a new jeruselem “heaven” will appear and that is where God will dwell with men!

      it is often misinterpretated that the test means this earth…bt vs 1 clearly says the frs earth had passed away n ther no mor sea…jst meditate about that…thank you

    • paul says:

      read carefully Rev 21:1-

      u wl identify that this earth wl pass away after a millinium rule with christ…a new jeruselem “heaven” will descend n dat is wher God wl make his dwellng among men…not on ds earth..
      thnk u ma brohter!

  29. kevin glancy says:

    Love the website, some of my questions were answered but im posting to Lisa Jefferies who says she is a “part christian”, id like to say, there is no part christian. You either believe or you dont there is no in between, if you believe you follow God’s commandments and your saved, nothing else is acceptable.

  30. chris says:

    I believe in Jesus and his lifehe gave for me. But im and so weak in the wordly flesh and i would like you all to pray for me that with your sprays and god love i can beat this wordly addiction.

  31. David H says:

    I am not a Christian however I have ONE question. Whatever happen to the hundreds of millions of people who lived prior to Christ?

    • Debbie Melville says:

      A beautifully written piece that brings comfort to those who grieve for their beloved ones who died in Christ. It is a reminder of our faith and and our need to look longingly to die in Christ after our work on earth is done. Not being afraid but being glad of the victory won and the hope of being with our Lord and Saviour. The grave cannot not hold those who trust fully in the Lord hence we look forward to eternal life with our heavenly father.

  32. olushola says:

    can some be born again on his on, i mean havin understood the word and what to…jst pray to God confessin sins, acceptin him and believe dat Jesus is Lord…without any altar call?

  33. sola says:

    Thanks your write up has been really helpful but what i still need to know is this, you know as humans even we that are saved some times we do some things that are wrong when such person dies unexpectedly what happens to such as in where do they go

  34. Alan Higgins says:

    Sola, when Christ died, He took care of our sins past, present and future.

  35. sola says:

    thanks for your response. Am aware that each person goes to a certain place after death but what i still dont understand is this once the soul goes to meet with God is there any bible reference that says wot happens between then and the resuurection of the body.

  36. Alan Higgins says:

    Sola, this is what this whole articl tries to address

  37. Teresa M. says:

    Addressing the young lady in love with a woman: There is no such thing as part Christian your either saved or not HOMOSEXUALITY is an abomination to god. God created Eve for Adam to be fruitful and to replinish earth. He didnt create man for man and woman for woman.2 women cant be fruitful and neither can 2 men. The devil is a liar and there is a place in hell called “The river of hell” where homosexuals are all chained to one another (A Divine Revelation of hell” tells all about. Christians believe in 1 God with 3 manifestations God the father Jesus the son and The Holy spirit why would God tell us PUT NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME FOR I AM A JEALOUS GOD if there were 3. Homosexuality is a war but God defeated satin and if God is for you, then who can be against you?! NO WEAPON FORMED AGAINST YOU SHALL PROSPER WHEN WE SPEAK THE NAME JESUS ALL DEMONS HAVE TO FLEE. REBUKE THOSE FEELINGS IN JESUS NAME AND SPEAK OUT YOUR NOT HOMOSEXUAL IN JESUS NAME AND REPENT OFTEN YOU WILL WIN EVERYTIME WITH GOD AT YOUR SIDE.IF JOB OVERCAME LOOSING EVERYTHING HE HAD ON TOP OF PAINFUL BOILS ALL OVER &IS BODY THEN YOU CAN OVERCOME HOMOSEXUALITY!!! GOD SAID HE WILL STAY WITH YOU ALWAYS AND NEVER LEAVE OR FORSAKE YOU!!! LIVE YOUR LIFE THROUGH CHRIST AS HE WANTS TO LIVE IN YOU!!! GOD BLESS!!!

    • zaggle says:

      Teresa please provide me scriptural evidence for this statement

      “There is a place in hell called “The river of hell” where homosexuals are all chained to one another”.

  38. amanda says:

    I’m still wondering after all this coments! Can one who died,hear and see us! Just asking! I love God with all my heart,and there is a lot of people(angels) with him,that I also love,but can they hear and see us! I know God can hear,and see us all the time,but what about my dear ones I love?

  39. zaggle says:


    I believe the short answer is no, they can not see or hear us. Everything we need to know about death is contained in Genesis. 2:17 the consequence of sin was death, “Thou shalt surely die” or as the Hebrew literally says, “Dying thou shaly die”. It is very emphatic.

    Death is not life, and if your deceased relatives are able to hear and see you, then they must have life, which is an outright contradiction of Genesis 2:17. Furthermore in Genesis 3:19 God says of Adam, “Dust thou are and unto shalt thou return” this is something we are painfully aware of, when a loved one dies we see their body being comitted to the ground or being cremated, either way they return to dust. They have no eyes to see with or ears to hear with or mouth or vocal chords to speak with. This is in harmony with Ecc. 9:10
    “Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your might; for there is no work or device or knowledge or wisdom in the grave where you are going.” or Psa.115:17
    “The dead do not praise the LORD, Nor any who go down into silence.” or Ecc.9:5
    “For the living know that they will die; But the dead know nothing, And they have no more reward, For the memory of them is forgotten”.

    The one who says the consequences of sin is life is Satan in Gen. 3:4 “Thou shalt not surely die”. Again a direct contradiction of what God said in Gen 2:17, and life after death, no matter how good or bad is life, not death, eternal torment and conscious suffering is life regardless of it’s quality, but God says death is the wages of sin, not life and we know that death is not yet defeated for us.

    Christ is the only one who has conquered death and so far the only one to be raised from the dead unto eternal life. As believers we will have eternal life when we are raised from the dead once again, as human beings with our new body, but until that time the dead are dust with no consciousness, All other scriptures which seemingly contradict the elementry position regading death in Genesis must be scrutinised in the light of that position.

    I reccommend you download a copy of the amazing free e-sword and do a search yourself on the words dead, death and sin, then read all the scriptures has to say about them. Come to your own conclusions by reading and re-reading the scriptures and not other peoples opinions of them, especially people who claim to have been to heaven or hell. The scriptures are clear regarding death, but this is something you need to see for yourself.

    • michael m says:

      Spot on , Zaggle . But how can we convince the ‘infected ‘ that death really does mean death and Resurrection is the hope of christians . ?.

  40. samantha reed says:

    my husban just died august 21 2011 i was wondering would i scents him around me ,feel his touch hear his voice

  41. J Abeydeera says:

    What would happen the people who were born before Jesus come to this world? Will they go to Hell or Heaven?

    • PilgrimZed says:

      My humble Response to Brother Alan:

      Your wrote: If we look at Rev 6:9-11 it says:

      9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne.
      10 They cried out with a loud voice, “O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”
      11 Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.

      These are those who have been killed yet we know they are conscious because they remember that they were killed. They spoke to God, they heard God to tell them to wait and this is all before Christ has returned to resurrect their bodies

      Dear Alan,

      Thank you for keeping the candle of Truth burning brightly on all the issues addressed in your website.
      Nevertheless, I beg (Gal 6:1) to differ with you on your use of the above text (Rev 6:9-11) in relation to death and afterlife.

      Kindly read this related quotation:
      “And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him. And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother’s keeper? And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother’s blood crieth unto me from the ground.” Gen 4:8-10

      In these verses, should we believe that Abel’s blood was actually speaking? Certainly not. This was just God indicating to Cain that justice requires that the spilt blood of his brother should be avenged. Does God avenge? Yes He does. Kindly Read (Romans 12:19).

      Similarly, throughout countless ages, there have been many angry Cains who have risen up and slain many righteous and meek Abels. But now the blood of all the Abels is crying out to the Lord for justice and vengeance.
      Additionally, in that verse 9 in Rev 6:9-11, it states that “I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God”. Doesn’t it sound like they are squashed together in a rather cramped and restrictive space? Underneath an altar? Isn’t that usually meant for sacrifice? Shouldn’t they rather be in Heaven’s choir singing in God’s courts? And, wouldn’t it be also a show of bitter-hearted vindictiveness for them to be seeking revenge for death on earth while they are enjoying eternal life in heaven? In these verses is God mainly addressing those who will wonder where God is when His people are being tortured or slain? Is it possible that He is saying – Do not worry about those who kill or torture you or your loved ones for they shall surely pay. Could it mean more than that? I say we all go back and read those verses and chapters more carefully and prayerfully.

      Additionally, you seem to suggest that indeed there is conscious life straight after death. A few questions based on scripture for us to consider:

      Question 1: If that is true then what shall we do on Judgement Day (Acts 17:31)? How can those already in either Heaven or Hell be judged again? Will people be recalled from Hell and Heaven to be placed before the Judge afresh or will it in fact be the first time that they are judged and eventually asisigned either to Heaven or Hell?

      Question 2: What will happen to, for example, Cain and Hitler? If Cain and Hitler went straight to their punishment after their death(s). Shall Hitler, who caused millions to be killed, receive 6,000 years less punishment than Cain who killed one?

      Question 3: Jesus raised his close friend Lazarus from the dead (John 11:1-). If Lazarus was already enjoying the pleasures of Heaven, wouldn’t he have furiously torn his bandages when he came out of the tomb and told Jesus in no uncertain terms how hurt he was to have been brought back to this world?

      Question 4: As you rightly stated scripture must be compared with scripture. Therefore, what do these verses mean in relation to death and consciousness?
      — “The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence.” (Psalm 115:17)
      — “For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?” (Psalm 6:5)
      — “For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.” Ecclesiastes 9:5,6
      — Lastly: “Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.” (John 5:28,29). NB. It says, “all that are in the graves…” What would they be doing in the graves if they are meant to be elsewhere?
      God does not contradict Himself.

      THE TRUTH (According to Scripture)
      When a person dies they enter into a state that can only be described (in our own human experience) as a long deep sleep, infinitely deeper than what we describe as sleep). Jesus himself said that his friend Lazarus was asleep before He raised him from the dead (Read John 11:11 “Our friend Lazarus sleeps; but I go that I may wake him out of sleep.”).

      The Bible refers to death as “sleep” many times (over 50 times according to some sources). Upon death everything is shut down physically (as any doctor will tell you) and even the flesh is reabsorbed into the ground. And then: Now here is where Creation in Genesis meets Human Resurrection in Revelation! When Jesus comes a second time he will recreate dead mankind just ast He created Adam, Eve, and the world in the first place! Kindly READ:
      “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words. (1Thessalonians 4:16-18)

      This means that, when a person dies, their next conscious thought is of hearing this “voice of the archangel” resurrecting him/her into eternal life or damnation. I imagine that some might even complete a sentence/word they were shouting just at the moment they died e.g. hearing a collapsing building creaking above him a man might have asked “What…!” and 100 years later when he rises from the dead finishes by saying “…was that…?” Some could be more dramatic obviously.

      This false doctrine was born when Satan spoke the first lie in our world to Eve: “Ye shall not surely die:” Genesis 3:4, he set the stage for numerous lies and false doctrines that have now crept in and ingrained themselves into Christ’s church. Spiritualism (speaking to the dead) has, throughout the years, sneaked into our beliefs through very innocent routes like the one we are now addressing.

      Since then, Man has constantly strived to prove his/her immortality whether in visible or invisible form, or in a happy or unhappy place. We who have the Bible need to ensure that we do not fall into the same trap through “church-tradition” (e.g. you might say: my folks believe it, my pastor preaches it, Hollywood glamourizes it, so why shouldn’t I believe it?). We must read the Bible ourselves (prayerfully, and with willingness to learn something different from what we have always believed) and leave the rest to God (Phil 2:13)

      This last bit, I’d request that you don’t load up on the discussion page:
      My Brother Alan, I too am a constant searcher for God’s truth as revealed by His Word and His Spirit (always Spirit & Word together, never apart). I’m a great admirer of your work (as are many others, going by some of the posts I’ve read), but I hope you continue in your blessed labour with due regard to Mark 9:42 “And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.” (NB. translation of the world offend in that context is also entice to sin, or cause to offend). You, I believe, have led many to truth and are blessed and shall continue to be blessed for it, but I ask that you be carefully spiritually proof-read any material that uses your site as a podium to speak to the public. I speak this truth meekly, and as a fellow-sinner. Beware lest your own soul be in peril, for putting upon your website an article promoting what some have called the Highway to Hell i.e. the belief that the dead are still living in whatever shape, form, or place. With all due respect to the author, I’d like to tell him that, according to the Holy Scriptures of God (which are the foundation of all that we believe) he is wrong. The dead are asleep. Let’s not be asleep while we are still living. May God open our eyes to understand His Word and do His will, Amen.

      Once again, many thanks.

      • Alan Higgins says:

        You have mentioned many things and I cannot go into all of your points (as I dont like to have big bible studies via this blog). However, I will touch on a few. As I am sure you will agree, context is everything. The context of Cain and Abels story obviously shows that the blood is not speaking, however the verse 11 in Revelation 6 goes on to say “Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters were killed just as they had been. ” This tells me that this is not just symbolic

        You are right that the bible talks about death as sleep but that does not mean that they go into an unconscious state. However as stated before, you have made many points which I will not go into each point. Maybe I will write a separate post about soul sleep in the future.

        Thanks for your comments

      • Noliner says:

        My brothers in Christ I Would like to ask you 3 Questions:
        What happened to your soul and spirit when you die?
        are they separated going on different directions?
        Do they remain intact together going on that direction?

  42. Soumya says:

    What is soul ? did any one see it ? how it looks ..? quite funny …Nothing is there .. we are the chemical , physical reaction of a nature like amiba ..Again..THERE IS NO SOUL , we all human being created our mind because we believe , intension to stay here in earth for ever..That is it. Only one life one chance and one way to exist , Only few lazy people made the soul and thing after life ….Just do your work, and believe strongly on your work , There is no GOD , do you think after death they will help us and make another birth ,,

    • Ben says:

      Surely you will know after your death whether soul is exist or not. Good luck! but remember Jesus Christ is the only God who can take you from sins and if you don’t believe in HIM you will go to hell for sure. Faith is very important. In last days all will forget Jesus and they go in their own way but time will come and at that moment they can’t do anything. Hate me or not but this is the truth. Trust Him otherwise go to Hell for sure!

  43. PilgrimZed says:

    Dear Allan,
    I hope you were able to read through my Bible-based response to the use of Rev 6:9-11 above, and the general question of “Where do we go after death….”

    As I read elsewhere (paraphrase of sorts), we are all but beggars walking towards Jesus’ cross, seeking the way to His Eternal gift. Thanks for your strengthening company.

    Have a blessed weekend.

  44. Alan Higgins says:

    I have skip read it but I havent had time to look at ot properly as it was quite a lot of info and I had a break from blogging so only really started catching up lately. Thanks for your input

  45. Dave2 says:

    The missing link that will remove some of the confusion that this discussion may have created can be found in Matthew 27:52-53: “And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after his (Jesus Christ) resurrection , and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many!”
    Of course the above text does not offer an explanation as to where those saints eventually went, but it would be logical to suggest that they went to heaven to be with their LORD. Whenever the bible has verse that may conflict with other texts, there is usually an event offered as an illustration to help us understand what God is teaching us. The above event described in Matthew may indicate that after Jesus Christ had conquered the grave then those that lived and died prior to his ascension were also raised up.
    As a result, the written word of Ecclesiastes 9:5, Psalm 6:5 or Psalm 115:17 would not contradict the scriptures written in 2 Corinthians 5:6-8 and Philippians 1:23 or any other New Testament text since Jesus Christ had completed His work after those Old testament texts were written. Further, the text of Revelations 6 would not change the concept of the living soul going immediately to heaven after death since Jesus Christ at that particular point had not yet returned to gather His own.
    The problem I suspect for most teachings will come when we tend to ignore the overall picture the Word displays because we may not like the direct statement or illustration given. For example, many Christians not only believe in the pre-tribulation rapture doctrine, they are willing to ignore many direct written scriptures to hold on to their doctrine regardless of its danger.
    Jesus Christ said in Matthew 24: 29-31: “Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other!”
    1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 clearly points out that when Jesus Christ returns those that sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. Therefore, the gathering mentioned above takes place in heaven where the souls of the elect will be taken from before those whom are alive are also gathered. We know this to be the correct implication of scripture because in the Book of Revelations 19:10 through chapter 20: 6 the apostle John reveals that when Jesus Christ returns he will cast the anti-Christ and his false prophet into the lake of fire after tribulation. Verses 4-6 of chapter 20 also indicate that this was the first resurrection.
    Hence, how can those that were taken out of the graves when Jesus Christ rose from the dead not be the first resurrection? Simply because their souls went to heaven with Jesus Christ to await the first resurrection as Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 15: 50-52: “Now this I say brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed!”Verse 53 concludes that our bodiless souls will be given new bodies: “For this corruption must put on incorruption and this mortal must put on immortality!”

  46. Satya says:

    I want know about the manything word of god

  47. marie says:

    im tired of christians thinking everyone goes to hell

    god is forgiving wheter or not you believe in him and if you have a good heart

    christian or not you still get to go to a heavenly place

    everyone thinks they know it all- and try to put the fear in you–nobody wants to hear that your loved one is going to hell

    • Tate says:

      My dear Marie, how greatly mistaken you are! I don’t know to which you religion you belong, but I’m here to tell you that there is only one God and that is the God who has revealed himself through his Word (the Bible) and since I believe that the Bible is God’s words to everyone in the world and a handbook for how to live as He would like us to live I will be referencing some verses from it that will contradict what you wrote.

      Firstly, Christians don’t think everyone is going to hell. They believe that most people WILL go to hell. Here is why: In Matthew 7:13-14 it says, 13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.” Jesus here (the Son of God) is saying only a few people will believe in God and Christ Jesus and that these people are the ones who will do their best to follow God’s ways (with the help of the Holy Spirit) while here on Earth and then eventually they will enter the gates of Heaven when they die. However, many people (and judging from your post, this includes YOU) will choose to follow the ways of this world and reject God and the teachings of Christ and this will lead to them going to Hell when they die.

      Secondly, I would like to know how you define a good heart. We all have different definitions of what is good. Your standards for morality are most likely not the same as mine and a host of other people, so how do WE know what is good? In Exodus 20 God lists his standards for what is good (the 10 commandments). He desires perfection and I can guarantee you that you have NOT upheld all of these commandments (Romans 3:23, James 2:10), therefore you have sinned and according to the Bible the result of your sin is death (Romans 6:23).

      Thirdly, you are right. God is forgiving whether or not you are Christian. This is why he took on flesh (John 1:14); he became human so he could live the perfect life that we couldn’t and in doing so he experienced what it’s like to be human, without sinning though (Hebrews 4:15), so he could be the perfect sacrifice for our sins (Isaiah 53:5, 1 Peter 3:18). We screwed up our lives and completely rejected God and we deserve Hell for it, but because God is love he took sympathy upon us and sent his son to die for us (John 3:16, Romans 5:8) so that our sins could be forgiven. This all happened before any of us became Christians.

      Earlier I mentioned that the result of your sins is death. Sadly, even though Christ died for our sins we are still going to experience a physical death (Hebrews 9:27). The death that Christ died on the cross was to SAVE us from eternal damnation, NOT physical death. That’s why he was resurrected 3 days later. We deserve to die and go to hell, but because Jesus sacrificed himself so we wouldn’t have to go to hell, we can now have eternal life through him. He is our only ticket to Heaven. That is why in John 3:16 it says that “…whosoever believes in him (Jesus) will not perish, but have everlasting life.” Notice that it’s not just enough to know that Jesus died for our sins, but we HAVE to believe in Jesus himself AND what he did. Believing is putting all your trust in HIM and nothing else, not your own philosophy (1 Corinthians 1:20), not your best efforts at being good (Isaish 64:6a, Ephesians 2:8-9), and certainly not being religious (Matthew 7:21-23).

      Now, in order for us, for YOU, to got to Heaven,God requires that you repent of YOUR sins (Acts 17:30) and to confess that Jesus is YOUR Lord and that he died and rose again to wipe away YOUR sins forever (Romans 10:9). So I guess now the question is will you accept this free gift that God has given you? You don’t have to earn your way to Heaven. It’s not even possible. Only through Christ can you be declared worthy to be called God’s child and enter the heavenly gates (John 1:12).

      Finally, everyone is not a know-it-all. I know that because I’m not one, but I do know what the Bible says concerning many things about life. You should be fearful about your eternal state if you have not yet accepted Christ as your saviour because where you are headed is not pretty. You said that nobody wants to hear that their loved ones are going to hell and you’re right, but as long as they aren’t on the narrow road that leads to life, well… No one likes hearing the truth of the Gospel when they aren’t following it, but it needs to be told. I was not planning on replying to your post, but I couldn’t fall asleep. I felt God telling me to come back online and reply to you, so I know you are reading this right now cos God would not let me labour in vain.

      I have done all that I can to help you understand who God is. I will be praying for you from now on until the day I depart this world. I sincerely hope that you accept Christ as your Saviour and you will come have a lovely relationship with him because that is what he desires. He is passionately seeking after you and is waiting for you to open the doors to your heart. I beg you, Marie, please let him enter your heart. It will be the best decision you will ever make.

      • Donald Jay says:


        God gave us the freedom to choose..we decide, but there’s one thing for sure, we all face God on the final judgement..It’s written on the bible that who,who does not have received JESUS CHRIST as their personal savior will not have an eternal life, and will be thrown to hell..

  48. michael m says:

    I enjoy the publications of the Open Bible Trust.org.uk . I also agree that man IS a soul rather than ‘ HAS a soul which departs from the body at death as conscious part of the person’ . I mean , what shape is this ‘soul’ ? . I do believe in the resurrection of all believers and non- believers and the judgment of both states for different reasons and results .

    I have thought and considered this subject for some time and years , and the confession I have given is my present belief about the matter . I also believe this how it is taught in the Bible which is the word of the living God and He should know ! I haven’t given any verse references as we each can search the scriptures to see if these things are so and also , by grace , alight upon teachings and teachers who can challenge our ‘traditional’ beliefs . After all I was once a Roman Catholic and I’ve made a journey in doctrinal beliefs as a non-catholic too and reached my present understanding .

  49. kiki says:


    I really need help on where to start. I have been raised as a christian and have been baptised. My mother is Protestant and father (he passed away around 13 years ago) was raised in a roman catholic family, i am sure if he had accepted Jesus Christ as his savior as he died when i was five, and we never got to discuss this.

    my first question is what kind of christian is the right christian ?

    i have come to question certain aspects of Catholicism one of them being the idea that you can pray to Mary and saints. I never questioned this until now, i know it is wrong to idolize. By praying to Mary are you idolizing?

    How do i repent for my sins ?

    I believe in God and have accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior but i cant help but have this feeling that i’m not good enough.I have sinned so much and i’m only 18 i want to repent but don’t know how to go about it i feel that me praying and asking god to forgive m is not enough. i still feel as though i’m bad person , probably my main concern is that fact that i had sex before marriage. I decided a few months ago that i would not have sex until marriage as i was committing a sin, it has been almost a year now but i really don’t think i am strong enough to stick to it, especially when so much is expected of you in a relationship. I have also had sexual relationships with females, i convinced myself that God is not concerned with our sexuality but our heart. Really in know what i have done in the past is wrong and is why i am trying and have been successful thus far in not engaging in this kind of behavior again, but i am still extremely sexually attracted to women what should i do? Also my Mum has not remarried but has had boyfriends since, is she sinning by sleeping with her partner if they are not married. she is a church going woman and even attend bible studies once or twice a week.

    Is it ok to get tattoos?

    i had planned on having a portrait of the virgin Mary tattooed and a verse from the bible. Is it wrong to have images of Jesus or Mary ? is it wrong to get any kind of tattoo?

    Is it wrong to drink alcohol, eat shellfish and pork ?

    I am so frightened of hell, and want to do everything to please God , i do not want to knowingly commit any sins or do things that displease God. I am not a drunkard and limit how much i go out to parties but when i do go to parties i usually get drunk.

    What about Muslims. what will happen to them ? they think we are the ones who will go to hell

    For the most part we are born into our religions. If my parents were Muslims i would probably be Muslim ( i like t think God would have called me and i would have converted to Christianity ). Some people never have the opportunity to have a relationship with God the way people who are raised with religion do, especially people around my age. What does the bible say about the good people who follow some kind of religion but because of the religion they belong to do not accept Jesus Christ. Lastly what about young children are they risk of going to hell?

    What are your opinions on 2012, Freemasons, Illuminati etc. ?

    I myself do not believe that the world will end in 2012 as the bible says no one but God knows, but i do believe it is the beginning of the end. the youth today are heavily influenced by the media. I am so frightened of those who embrace the devil by doing things like supporting artists who worship the devil (lady gaga, Jay-z. Rihanna etc.) I feel like there is going to be New World Order very soon and we will all have to chose between good and evil. I myself am confident that i would rather suffer anything here on earth, than go to hell. There are no riches that could tempt me, even the threat of death could not make be give in to Satan. But is it worth us fighting against these people and evil, or should we worry about ourselves. There will be a war and is it not our duty to fight ( i do not mean violence) to protect others from evil? How would we even go about this ?

    Thank you for taking the time to read this.

    • michael m says:

      Kiki , You can’t have a tattoo of ‘the virgin Mary ‘ drawn on you as does the artist know what Mary looked like ? And even if anyone knew what Mary looked like for real , they could not draw a ‘virgin Mary because Mary did not remain a virgin AFTER the birth of her son Jesus.
      Firstly because though the conception which became the baby was supernatural , the actual birth was natural and thus Mary would have lost her virginity that way . But then later in time Mary would have had normal relationship with her husband Joseph and gave up her virginity properly that way . This must be a fact as Mary had other sons and daughters – half brothers and sisters of Jesus . Find out in your Bible Mathew Mark and Luke ?.

      As what will happen to muslims budhists and other peoples of other religions , you should not concern yourself as much at the present time as you should really be concerned about yourself and getting right with God through our Lord Jesus Christ , for He is the Way and the Truth and the Life and noone comes to the Father (God ) except through Him. And apart from Him you can do nothing .
      I think if you read John chapter 1 through to chapter 4 slowly carefully thoughtfully and prayerfully every day for a week and respond to the thoughts you receive , you may have great benefit and joy . Just do it ; you have nothing to lose but you may find much to gain .

    • jonathan says:

      I know the feeling of not being good enough very well kiki. Then as I studied the bible more I came to a dramatic realization. I am not good enough, never have been, and never will be. NON OF US ARE. We are all human and sinful by nature. Nothing we will ever do will gain us salvation. You have to understand Gods GRACE. Grace is a gift that is given to the undeserving. Everyone of us humans have sinned, and the wages of sin is death. Yet our Lord JESUS selflessly took upon his self all the sins of the past present and future. In a nutshell that means that sin has already been paid for, all we have to do is ask for the forgiveness and it is granted. We do not deserve salvation because we are all wicked and unclean. Yet Jesus is faithful to forgive us, when we confess and repent. The walk of a christian is a daily struggle. We are flesh, and our flesh is sinful. We must look to God to guide us in spirit to put off the things of the flesh. As you walk daily with Christ and continue your relationship with Christ you will start to see things change, and yourself sin les. Will you ever walk a sinless life? No. You will stumble and fall. You will sin. And you will never be good enough to earn salvation. Thats right. You will never earn salvation, because you cant. Jesus gives us salvation as a free gift. Just accept the gift. Be humble before God, and try to walk his path as much as you can. Know that He is always faithful to forgive. Guilt over past forgiven sin is a lie from satan. God has forgotten it, Lucifer has not and will always use your past as a stumbling block for you. God will never bring your past sins against you. Trust in your belief of Jesus and his forgiveness. And walk the walk. You dont deserve salvation, but you have it. Give God the glory, for the glory is his. He has saved you. Not you.

  50. Nicole says:

    My Grandad just died yesterday 23-12-2011 it was very sad:( but i just wanted to know i felt him before he died and so did my mother and granmam someone told me that there spirit leaves three days before they die is that true…?

    • Donald Jay says:


      as what i’ve knew from my pastor once we die,if we are a believer in Christ, our soul will go directly to heaven and wait for the judgement day, and if he/she died as a non believer in Christ, the soul will go down directly to hell and wait for the final judgement..

  51. michael m says:

    sked if he believed in ‘ life after death ‘ a christian replied ; ‘ I believe in life after resurrection ‘.

    Now as regards the ‘thief on the cross’ crucified along with the Christ ,Jesus , He could just as easily meant , ‘Verily I say unto thee today , shalt thou be with Me in paradise ‘ . The malefactor had just asked the Lord to ‘ remember me when You come into Your kingdom ‘ . Jesus was truly the ‘King of the Jews’ as well as Son of God , Messiah and Saviour . Even tho the rulers called Him ‘king’ out of mockery . And He will come again and begin to rule His Kingdom and the thief will be resurrected to enjoy it with Him .

    \search the scriptures properly and see whether these things are so ?. Apparently we live at a wonderful time when the opportunity to open up the scriptures is made available to us in so many ways as rarely before . Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom , teaching and admonishing one another with psalms , hyms and spiritual songs , singing with grace in your hearts unto the the Lord .

  52. Alan Higgins says:

    All, I have decided to close the comments on this post as some of them digress from the subject. Thankyou all for your contribution