When I first became a Christian, one of the things that we were taught is that we had to be careful how we lived because if the rapture came while we were sinning, we would be left behind or if I died suddenly before repenting, then I would be lost. Many a Christian lived in bondage and in fear of sinning while Jesus returned. Then after a while, I began to think logically. Even though we are christians, we all still sin everyday. If I went by the logic that I was taught, that would mean that a lot of people would die in their sins and not be taken with Jesus when he returns because at any given point in a day, many christians would be sinning because of our fallen nature meaning that everything would have been in vain. Or they have a sinful thought (which one of us haven’t) and then some tragic happens before they had time to repent, for example, 9/11, they would be lost in the same way that an unbeliever would be lost. There would be no guarantee of our salvation and it would basically be a gamble. It made no sense and made the cross of Christ a bit useless and ineffective. My salvation would be based on what I do and not what he has done. That was until I fully understood what Christ actually achieved.

Christ’s death on the cross and his atonement for our sins was not just limited to the past and the present but also stretches into the future

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit………..For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. (Romans 8:1,5)

I now understand that once I have repented and put my trust in Christ for my salvation, ALL of my sins have been forgiven. Past present and future. I do not have to live in fear that when Christ comes or when I die, I might be ‘caught in the act’ of sinning in one form or another. I can live with the freedom knowing that even if I have sinned ‘before I have repented’, I will not be condemned and I will not forfeit my inheritance in Christ. Note though that this applies to those that ‘walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit’. In other words those who have had a true and not false conversion and have truly repented.

Now…….

I can hear many people saying ‘Well that’s OK then. If my future sins are forgiven, then I can live how I want’. If those are your thoughts and you’re thinking is how much you can sin and ‘get away with it’, then there is good chance that you are not truly born again and could be self-deceived. Because a true believer hates his sins and has NO desire to continue sinning. This is just one of the ways you can know if you are a true christian.

I always like to see it as me and Christ swapping jackets. Christ takes my ‘sinful’ jacket in exchange for His ‘righteous’ jacket. Christ in my jacket was punished at the cross and when I stand before God, He only sees the righteous jacket and therefore I am not punished because all my sins have been accounted for and taken on by Christ. WHAT A GREAT DEAL!!

For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. (2 Cor 5:21)

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Comments
    • I absolutely agree with everything you wrote. Those churches that a different message do nothing but confuss a put much fear into christians hearts. Especially new christians. GOD can help those christians living in bondage by phalse prophets teaching lies. Keep up the good work. Mike

      • Israel fields says:

        Lies lies lies….when your born again ..ans sin you die spiritually just like adam did…theres not another jesus to come give you another rebirth…dont continue in sin because your so called once saved always saved ..wont save you in the end

        • Fire by night says:

          Romans 5:12-21, Ephesians 1:13
          May God open your eyes and show you the dispensation of Grace apon his church.
          The height width and depth of his love.

  1. Sean Trank says:

    I was studying 1 Corinthians 10:13, this issue is very close to home for be because a close friend of mine has recently fallen into sin and my friend has been asked to be held accountable, but he has logically justified his actions and continues to live in sin. Before this he has struggled with temptation but never acted on it, but something slowly convinced him that he could not win this fight. Please pray for my friend he was asked to go to therapy but instead he just left to live his life.

  2. Great message. We are saved by Christ alone and to add anything to it is to empty the cross. However you are right in saying that true conversion is proven to be true when you begin to hate your sin and desire to walk as Christ did. You literally become a new creation. The good works you do are by the power of Christ working in you to do his work. All that you do should reflect an outward sign of your inward change. You learn that there is nothing greater than to be used by Christ for his kingdom!

    • Alan Higgins says:

      I do love your comments Marianne. Very inspiring and encouraging

    • Donald Jay says:

      very inspiring sister marianne..pls do pray for my country, Philippines which is now in a calamity disaster caused by a strong typhoon and floods and mudslides, many filipinos were died..
      God bless you ma’am..

      • Hi Donald,

        I will definitely be praying for the Philippines. I know that a lot is going on there and my heart is with you. I have a world map that I look over each night and pray over the countries. I will keep you and your country in my prayers. Be blessed, my brother. Christ is with you.

        • Donald Jay says:

          Thanks a lot sister marianne,may our Lord Jesus blessed you and your family, my heart is really in pain everytime i heard a news about what happened to other part of the Philippines..How about you ma’am,do you have any prayer request too, so that i can include those in my prayers? pls pray also mam for my spiritual growth..thanks a lot..
          Christ be with you always..
          Merry CHRISTmas sister..

    • Robert says:

      YES, YES, YES, THIS IS WHAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN MY HEART

  3. Noel says:

    What about when I lose faith in Jesus, would I also lose His forgiveness, and therefore, lose Salvation? Or I never truly had faith? What about the times that I have doubts, does that mean I am not saved, because with my doubt, I can consider moving away from God?

    • Tom Gretch says:

      Noel, any true believer in Christ has been given a new nature, called “the new man” (Eph. 4:24). That new man within the Christian leads us to live for God and become more like Christ each day (2 Cor. 4:16). On the other hand, our old nature we have had from birth still can assert itself leading to sin and unbelief or doubts (Rom. 7:14-26). But if we are truly born again, the Holy Spirit will convict us of our sin and lead us to ask for forgiveness and return to fellowship with God (1 John 1:9). A truly born again Christian can never completely fall away from God (Jude 1:24). We can be backsliden but not permanently (Jude 1:23-24). If we have no conviction of our sin and continue in our doubts and unbelief that is a sure sign we never were born again (Rom. 8:6-9, 2 Pet. 2:6-8). Such a person needs to cry out to God to give him repentance from his sins and self-directing of his life and to have the faith in Christ’s blood that gives the full assurance of salvation (1 Thess. 5:5-6).

      • Noel says:

        Tom, true, I also believe that we can move back and forth in our spiritual journey, either closer or farther away from God. My thought differs, I guess, when it comes to “Salvation”. I believe that, even when we backslide, we don’t permanently move away from God, like you mentioned and quoted some Bible verses on. We can choose to be away from God by being selfish, but I don’t think we burn in hell permanently for not accepting Jesus as my “personal Savior”. Being “born again” is not a one time event…. it is a gradual process, like when we learn how to love unconditionally and forgive others (it does not happen overnight). God’s love and grace is greater than we can ever imagine. I am not saying this out of convenience or to justify by “sinful nature”, but because this is what my experience with religion and life has shown me. I could still be wrong and I can admit it (which is another thing that differs me from most traditional believers). I used to be a Christian who would think that we either believe in Jesus as a Lord and Savior, or be already condemned to hell, as many believers choose to interpret the Gospel. It is a black and white, convenient, and selfish way of thinking. Coming to this conclusion is like the Atheist concluding that all believers are living a fantasy simply because their logic says so. Life is more complicated and greater than what we can conclude by reading a holy book or relying on our own logic. I know my views are not popular, but they are what I truly think and feel. Thank you for reading.

        • Tom Gretch says:

          Marianne is right. Two of the aspects of salvation, justification and regeneration, happen at one point in time. Jesus likens this to being born naturally and calls it being born again (John 3:3ff). That is not a process but a one time thing. But like after natural birth, we have a lot of growing to do to become mature spiritually (Heb. 5:13-14, 1 Pet. 2:2). We need to daily put to death the deeds of the body and spirit to grow in Christ (Rom. 8:13, 2 Cor 7:1). It is crucial to put all our ideas to the test of the Word of God to see if they be true or not (Heb. 4:12-13). We should not think that we can legitamately hold to ideas contrary to the Bible just because that is how we feel. Jesus HImself said that those who believe in Him will be saved but those who do not beileve and obey Him have the wrath of God abiding on their heads now (John 3:31).

          • Noel says:

            Tom, I can appreciate your comment, because I was raised believing the same thing. However, it is hard to continue to believe that the same God that “so much loved the world” is the same Being who “has his wrath on me”. I used to give Bible studies to the youth in the church, teaching them about how to defend their faith. So I know about how to interpret the Bible so that we can justify using the fear of eternal damnation to bring people “to Salvation”. To me, this is not love, but manipulation. Based on what I read in the Bible, Jesus did not manipulate people, but spoke truth by pointing out people’s hypocrisy and stressing that, if they don’t turn from their wicked ways, they will perish in their selfish lives (sin). But if they become transparent, humble, and serve others unconditionally, they will be experiencing the Kingdom of Heaven, and be closer to God. Hell (Hades) was actually a physical place at the bottom of the city where trash was burned (eternal fire). Anyway, just thought I could share this. God bless.

            • Tom Gretch says:

              Noel, I can understand your hesitancy to believe that a loving God can also be a wrathful God. But the same chapter in John’s gospel that has the beautiful verse about the love of God in giving His Son for the forgiveness of our sins (John 3:16) also has verse 36 that reads, “The one who believes in the Son has eternal life, but the one who refuses to believe in the Son will not see life; instead, the wrath of God remains on him” (HCSB). The wrath of God comes because God is infinitely holy. He can not allow any being to go unpunished who contradicts His holiness. God gives us His Law to spell out how we are to live in harmony with His holiness. Sin is living lawlessly (1 John 3:4) and deserves punishment (John 3:36) unless we are united to Christ via faith and repentance. Then the Holy Spirit comes to live in us leading us to live lives pleasing to God (Rom. 8:13).

              As for manipulaton of people into getting saved, I fully agree that that would be wrong. The true gospel in no way needs manipulation in order to be effective. The Holy Spirit is the effectual agent in bringing people to salvation (1 Peter 1:1-2). To use manipulation to “get people saved” will only result in false professions. A preacher or soul-winner who uses manipulation may see more people
              “saved” but these will only be false professions and most likely will not remain in a good church because his unconverted heart cannot accept sound preaching (1 John 2:19).

              I would suggest that you keep searching for a solid, gospel preaching church that does not use manipulation to try to gain numbers of professions. Such a church should put a heavy empahsis on equipping the church for evangelism, holy living and humble service to others. We cannot live as islands unto ourselves and expect to grow in the Lord. We must value the Holy Spirit lead gift of the pastor to lead us into living for God (Acts 20:28). Such a pastor will be the greatest asset we can have.

              I hope this has been of some help. I will be praying for you.

              Tom

              • Noel says:

                Tom, unfortunately I have experienced manipulation from several evangelistic preachers. I have tried five different churches in my life, and I am yet to find one where I can grow spiritually. This is why I have began to believe that God is better found outside the church. Thank you for you advice though, it will be considered. God bless.

                • Tom Gretch says:

                  Noel, Don’t give up trying to find a good church. Hopefully there is a good one out there in your area. And don’t forget that just because a church falls into manipulation to try to get results does not mean that the Bible is not correct that we need to be in a good church (Heb. 10:25). What city and state do you live in? Maybe I can try to find a church for you. I have been praying for you.

                • Donald Jay says:

                  brother noel,

                  look for a church which has a bible based doctrine or preaching…it is also with your personal relationship with the Lord our God..

                • michael m says:

                  I can empathise with NOEL with his disapointment in the going-to -church experience. And I concur that Noel may find he grows more spiritually away from formal church but by personal time spent with the Lord and His word and spiritual writers and help from christian websites . (But a warning . Some christian websites can bring confusion though ).
                  Then Noel could attend his chosen local church not so much as dependant or one who may have ‘the wool pulled over his eyes ‘ but as one who is standing in the strength which Christ supplies . Noel may find he enjoys his church more .
                  The Church – the Body of the Christ – is more than , but inclusive of the local church ?.

                  Noel could not only be blessed but also be enabled to be a blessing if he makes it a priority to happy ‘in Jesus ‘ .

                  I was glad I went to the local church yesterday and heard an unusual message on Hannah the mother of Samuel . The exhortation was that God hears and He answers prayer .Amen . 🙂 He anwered her prayer . So take it t the Lord in prayer ! He is Gracious and full of compassion .

          • Alex Beierle says:

            “Once saved always saved” is a lie spread Satan himself. Any Christian would know that if they read their Bible for themself…

            Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.

            • Alan Higgins says:

              By your interpretation of this scripture, if someone ‘backslides’ they can never come back to Christ

  4. “Being “born again” is not a one time event…. it is a gradual process,”

    Being born-again is to receive Christ as your Lord and Savior! It is a one-time event. You do not need to keep being born again. When you are truly saved, Christ says that he replaces your heart of stone with one of flesh. That heart is one willing to submit to the Lordship of Christ. That is done once. It is a radical change in that the Holy Spirit of God enters and lives in you. He then guides you to do what is right and to follow in the path that was set for you. While we may still sin and give in to our carnal flesh, we do not sin as before. We have a new relationship to Christ and with that comes a new relationship to sin. Anyone who keeps sinning as he did before this salvation is not saved!

    While we are saved once, the Holy Spirit continues the work of regeneration in us. Yes, it is a process of growing in that newness. We learn to walk by faith and to avoid unrighteousness. We learn that day by day by day by day until Christ takes us home. But, once you are saved, there must be an outward sign of your inward change. Your life should reflect that Christ is living in you.

  5. Donald Jay says:

    Born again on the otherhand is transformation from a sinful man into a Christ-like person..

  6. wunmi says:

    This is a wonderful realization for christians to have, that we have a freedom in Christ, but it is also important to remember the ‘balance’ message in this – we still have to confess our sins when we DO sin (1 john 1:9) and not justify them or allow ourselves to get hardened by them. For sin still remains the “poison” factor in the relationship between us and God

  7. Grant says:

    The “who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit” was added by the KJV translators

  8. John says:

    Very inspiring message. That’s how we are righteous not because of our works but because of Jesus.
    Hmm….. Roman 8:1 should have read “There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus” The rest were added by King James’ Scholars not in the original Greek Bible.

  9. Kyrie says:

    Are we still forgiven if we did the same sin multiple times? but repented and left the life of sin?

    • Alan Higgins says:

      Kyrie, the simple answer is yes. The key word there is repented and the fact that you said you left your sin

      • Kyrie says:

        So lately my heart has been sad about my used to be best friend she has chosen to live in an alternative lifestyle and i feel i should tell her if she doesn’t stop now she will go to hell, but i can’t say it. and i dont know what to do

  10. Tony Armour says:

    Wonderful truth. Great article! Too many people believe you can live like the devil and still be saved.

  11. Truth says:

    It is true that we are free from the condemnation of sin and many are confused when it comes to God’s grace and forgiveness. One of the false doctrine on the other side of this view is that the only time you need to confess your sin is when you are born again and that because we are forgiven for past present and future sins we do not have to confess sin after initial conversion as grace covers it. I have heard this particular false doctrine from Joseph Prince. If you are not listening carefully it sounds right but throughout scripture believers are warned to repent/confess their sins etc. Whilst scripture in no way supports the idea that an unconfessed sin can cause a true believer to go to hell if they didn’t repent before death/ rapture there is nothing in scripture to support the idea that we can live like hell and expect to spend eternity with Jesus. Sin will affect our faith walk if it is not dealt with of that there is no question and when the spirit prompts us about our lifestyle/ behaviour etc we should respond but I agree that we should not live in fear of going to hell if we are truly born again.

  12. Chris says:

    I think the main mistake here is the difference between “died for” and “forgiveness”. While Paul says in Romans, just that our past sins are forgiven. Nowhere in the scriptures, that I know, of does it say that our future sins are forgiven, only that they are died for. Now when it comes to sin and repentance and dying in your sins, the real argument is when you’re walking with Christ, if you have fallen, that is continuously in sin without repentance. I believe the Scriptures are clear that if you’re living in sin and don’t repent, then you will go to hell.

  13. Alan Higgins says:

    Chris, I am not talking about a habitual lifestyle of sin which points to a person who is probably not a christian

  14. Antonio Garcia says:

    “Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.” -Acts 2:38

    Viewing the King James Version. Click to switch to 1611 King James Version of Acts 2:38.

  15. Antonio Garcia says:

    Jesus in the 17 chapter of the book of John says “I sanctify myself that they may be sanctified…” have you stopped to look and know what that means? here is what some definitions are for SANCTIFY ;Definition of sanctify (vt)

    Bing Dictionary
    sanc·ti·fy
    [ sángktə f ]

    1.make something holy: to give something holy status
    2.free somebody from sin: to perform a ritual or other act intended to free somebody from sin
    3.bless something through religious vow: to give a religious blessing to something such as a marriage, usually through an oath or vow

    Which do you suppose Christ was talking about? Have a blessed day, Jesus loves you.

  16. Antonio Garcia says:

    “And as they departed from Jericho, a great multitude followed him.

    And, behold, two blind men sitting by the way side, when they heard that Jesus passed by, cried out, saying, Have mercy on us, O Lord, thou son of David.

    And the multitude rebuked them, because they should hold their peace: but they cried the more, saying, Have mercy on us, O Lord, thou son of David.

    And Jesus stood still, and called them, and said, What will ye that I shall do unto you?

    They say unto him, Lord, that our eyes may be opened.

    So Jesus had compassion on them, and touched their eyes: and immediately their eyes received sight, and they followed him.” – Matthew 20:29-34 (KJV)

  17. jole says:

    is there a reference in the Bible that says: “our sins are forgiven in the past present and the future”?

    • Tony says:

      Hebrews 9:25-26For Christ has entered, not into holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true things, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God on our behalf. 25 Nor was it to offer himself repeatedly, as the high priest enters the holy places every year with blood not his own, 26 for then he would have had to suffer repeatedly since the foundation of the world. But as it is, he has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

      These verses don’t use the words past,present and future but it implies it. If Christ did not forgive us of our future sins as well then he would have to keep dying every time we sinned, but that doesn’t happen because He has died for our sins once and for all.All of them.

  18. Bread Of Life says:

    Christ didn’t die to forgive the sin we commit willfully, He died on the cross so our sins COULD BE forgiven, and sin can only be forgiven if we repent. The sins we committed out of ignorance will be forgiven if we truly come to God. But once we come to know Him, we MUST REPENT and come to Him wholeheartedly, turning away from sin completely. We must come to know Him and to be known by Him.

    “Except you repent you shall all likewise perish ” (Luke 13:3). There is no qualification – it means ALL. It is the God-appointed way of salvation – “for godly sorrow works repentance unto salvation” 2 Corinthians 7:10

    “I am come to seek and to save that which was lost” Luke 19:10 “I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance” Luke 5:32 “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand” Matthew 4:17 John the Baptist preached the same message Matthew 3: 2 & Isaiah 40: 3

    A person must understand the real nature of sin, to forsake it and turn to God. This is where the operation of God’s word is effectual to bring to the sinner’s mind the understanding of sin in the sight of a Holy God. Within the faculties of a person’s mind, the ‘turning’ begins in a change of thinking and evaluation of oneself from viewing the particular thing as acceptable or pleasurable, to seeing sin as sin, agreeing with God and saying the same thing that He says about it. This is true confession of sin, not merely verbally pleading for forgiveness of what we have done. This requires the illuminating power of the Holy Spirit to bring God’s perspective on it and agree with His judgment on it.

    • Alan Higgins says:

      I have never stated that a person can willfully sin. If a person does that all the time with no conviction then it is a sign that they may not be a Christian. (do a search on my post for ‘how do you know if you are a Christian’. However Christians DO sin everyday and his atonement covers that as well but a true Christian will not desire to live in sin. Some people interpret it as giving people a license to sin and that is not the case

      Sent from my HTC

  19. Don S. says:

    I suggest you differentiate between willful sin and sin of omission. Sins of omission, where we (miss the mark) should not be considered because we all sin and fall short of Gods glory. We will never be perfect. Perfection is the work of Jesus on the cross.

    What should be focused on is Willful sin. Even True Christians sin willfully. It is not helpful to pretend that people who know Christ never sin willfully. It is a lie and it only leads people who experience failure to believe they will never truly be saved because they try and fail only to hear false teaching that says, “you must not really have a relationship with Jesus because you sin willfully.”

    Just about all of the exhortations of the letters to churches, in the Bible, encourage people to not sin willfully but to go on and experience the sanctifying power of Jesus Christ by offering themselves as living sacrifices. It is a process.

    Willful sin should lead to conviction. Conviction should lead to Confession and repentance. To continue in willful sin, is to come close to the hard heart of Hebrews 3:12. …do not let the deceitfulness of sin harden your heart. Hebrews is written to believers. Apostasy is a real condition that comes from a hard heart, that comes from people who live in willful sin not repenting. They eventually give up and turn from Christ. This is a key portion of Hebrews theme.

    The answer is simple. Jesus will never leave you or forsake you. DO NOT GIVE UP! The only way out is for you to quit on Him. 1 John reminds us that all we need to do is, Confess and repent and God is faithful and just to purify you from all unrighteousness. He will restore you. Willful sin again and you will fall into conviction and a fearful dread of the judgment to come. Confess and repent and you will be purified. So much confusion. Stop sinning! Stop trying to use grace as a means to go on sinning. Listen to the Spirit and experience the peace that passes all understanding as you live according to the Spirit and not according to the flesh.

  20. John Alex says:

    What happen to us after we are saved (being born again), do we still pay or face the consequences of our past life? Please, I need understanding. Thanks.

    • Alan Higgins says:

      You will not be punished for your sin as that was paid for by Jesus on the cross. However in this life, you may have to deal with the consequences of your sin. Hope that makes sense

  21. Jerry says:

    Great information.

  22. Jesse says:

    Hello Brother Allen,

    I ran across this blog that you wrote 5 years ago. I pray that since that time, study and prayer have brought you to a deeper understanding of salvation. I noticed that you wrote in length, explaining your early years in salvation and how you learned better. I was moved in my heart as I read and thought I would take the time to write you. I pray that you would take the time to read what I am writing in return.

    2 Corinthians 5:17 is not speaking of Jesus righteousness being a covering for our sin. He became (made) sin for us so that we could BECOME (made the righteousness of in Him. The key term here is those of us that are IN HIM have been made righteous. In this same chapter of scripture (5:17) you find that those who are in Him also become New Creatures, hence they were born again. The New Creature that they have become does not have a fallen nature, but much rather a divine nature (2 Peter 1:4).

    Jesus died to free us from sin (Matthew 1:21), not just from the consequences of sin. When we teach that we will be covered regardless we are guilty of turning the grace of God into something lascivious (Jude 1:4). God expects us to live unspotted from this world. In salvation the old sinful creature (man) is destroyed. This man is dead to sin. Romans 6:1-2 1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

    There is so much more that I would love to share with you…. I will leave my email. You can also check out http://www.globalimpactonline.net

    Grace and peace,

    JESSE,

    • Alan Higgins says:

      Thanks for replying. As long as we live in this world we will never be free from sin and sanctification will work in us to make sin less and less in our lives. It is not about perfection but about direction. That direction to take us towards holiness. A TRUE christian will not want to sin so i am not promoting laviciosness at all. If a person wants to live in sin, then it probably shows that they are not probablt born again. However, if a person STRUGGLES with sin. That is a good sign. We as Christians sin every day in one form or another. Are you saying that if Christ comes when we sin, we will lose our salvation because that sounds like Russian roulette?

      • Jesse says:

        Hello, please in advance forgive me for my lengthy response; I just truly love the Word of God, and His people. I am passionate about us all having the knowledge of truth.

        My response:

        What I am saying is that the perspective that you have of salvation is not inline with Scripture. When we have a wrong perspective if salvation, the freedom it produces, and the power of the New Creature that comes forth, we will never be able to truly embrace God’s expectation for His Sons.

        True salvation is deliverance from sin. This is what setting the captives free truly means. Sin is not inevitable, because sin no longer has dominion over the Sons of God (Romans 6:14). Where the spirit of the Lord is there is liberty -2 Corinthians 3:17. This liberty is freedom from sin, because the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made us free from the law of sin and death -Romans 8:2. The presence of Christ that dwells in every born again believer is the HIM that the Apostle Jude spoke of.

        Jude 1:24 Now unto HIM that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

        So what I am saying is that it is not true that sin is inevitable for everyone. I am saying that the power of God within us is powerful enough to produce a life that is free from sin. This is so because the excellency of the power that is at work within us is of God (2 Corinthians 4:7).

        Consider the following passage of Scripture:

        1 John 1:5-7 5This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

        When sin is present in our lives, we are not able to have the fellowship that our Father intended. When a person says that sin has no effect on the fellowship that they have with God, the writer declares that they lie. But most importantly, the passage says that the blood of Jesus cleanses us from ALL sin. When a person does not embrace the truth of the Scripture, it is because of unbelief. Therefore, the entire theory of justified by faith fails.

        Let me ask a question: Do you believe that God will judge the world ( those bound in sin) for the lives that they live, but will not judge those who He has freed from sin (by the blood of Jesus) for doing the same things. I think not, no liar, fornicator, adulterous person, or any other kind of sin will inherit the kingdom of heaven (1 Corinthians 6:9-10). Rather they are born again or not. Therefore if the Lord returns and finds me living contrary to the leading of His indwelling Spirit, yes I will be judge, and yes I will forfeit my inheritance as a son. Just as our example Esau: He did not go soup crazy, he traded it for a bowl of soup, but he never repented (acknowledged and turned in his hear and ways) of his sin. He actually despised His birthright (Gen. 25:27-34). Therefore if the Lord returns and finds us with the bowl of soup in our hands, we will indeed be judged.

        Judgement begins at the house of God, it is not overlooked. Therefore, we are encouraged in the Scripture to “…let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.” – 1 John 3:7.

        I pray that this helps to bring greater clarity…

        Be blessed,

        Jesse,

        • Alan Higgins says:

          This is where we differ. We are free from the PENALTY of sin but we are not totally free from the effects of sin because we still have an unredeemed body that we live in. Hence the reason why we need a new body. When Jesus presents us faultless, it’s not because we are sinless within ourselves, it’s because Jesus has taken ALL of our sin upon himself. It’s because of HIS righteousness that we are blameless and not us. Just think about what you are saying. You are basically saying that we (in ourselves) have to be perfect for salvation. That means our salvation is not based on Christs perfect work on the cross but if we sin or not at a particular time. So if Christ comes and a new believer has a sinful thought (remember we are all at different stages in our walk) he will not be saved. Please note that I am NOT saying that we can be presumption and just sin. Nor am Iessening sin in any way. A true believer struggles with sin and doesn’t want to do it in the same way that Paul had a struggle between the flesh and the spirit and he had to say oh wretched man that I am. A person who is content to live in sin is probably not truly born again. Hope that clarifies things. I don’t want to go back and forth on this so we might have to agree to disagree but thanks for your gracious comments.

          • Jesse says:

            I Greet you again my brother,

            I understand your perception, and I agree that we are not able to earn heaven, or produce righteousness by our own power. The place that we differ is that I also acknowledge is that Christ dwells within us now. It is the power of His indwelling life that can produce sinless perfection in us the same way it did the 33 years that He lived on earth. He was tempted in all manner like unto us, yet He live without sin (Hebrew 4:15).

            Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

            The Spirit of Christ is the new wine spoken of in Mark 2:22. Jesus taught that not only will we get new wine (spirit), but that the bottle/wine skin (flesh) would be made new as well. Do you understand the Scriptures that point to the work that is done in the body at the point of salvation? Let me quote just a couple for your consideration:

            Colossians 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

            Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

            Our God, our Father has done a complete work in us. Just as Jesus, we may be in the likeness of sinful flesh (Romans 8:3), but the bodies of those who have been baptized into the Spirit of Christ has been cleansed.

            To address us waiting for the redemption of our new bodies, this is true; we are waiting to take on eternal bodies. If we are in the world, but of the world, then at some point we also will need bodies that are not of this world. Furthermore, never claimed to struggle with sin… I know that you are referencing Romans 7:24. However, you seem to be overlooking the fact that He is speaking in past-tense, which is established in 5th verse and 14…

            Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

            Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

            Therefore this man being spoken of in Romans 7, is someone who is sold in sin, not a man who is redeemed. This further proven as Paul marks a different location for those who are saved:

            Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

            So you may be correct we may indeed have to agree to disagree… however if you notice I keep giving you Scripture, not my passionate opinion.

            But I appreciate the peaceful exchange. I love you and I pray that your walk in Christ would be strengthened and that you would come to know the fullness of His power that is within those who have received His Spirit.

            • Alan Higgins says:

              So everyone in heaven are people who was perfect on earth? If not, how did they get there? Typing on iPad hence why responses are short

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